Hi all,

This only applies to people still considering buying a working ejb 1.1
server and want to use toplink. Inprise currently has a beta integration of
TopLink with their EJB 1.1 server. Probably does not help most of the people
here but if anybody is a experienced TopLink user please checkout the
integration and help create a even better product.

http://www.inprise.com/appserver/ the beta integration can be obtained
through the newsgroup this product has at
news://forums.inprise.com/inprise.public.appserver

kind regards

William Louth

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bhattacharyya, Ana [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 4:12 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      Re: Implementing using CMP quickly runs in to limitation...
>
> Hi
>
> There is a problem here as neither Toplink or CocoBase has compliance with
> weblogic server 5.1 --- they dont have any beta also. So those who are
> going
> for ejb 1.1 and Weblogic will be forced to use BMP.
>
> Anamitra
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Larson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 10:54 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Implementing using CMP quickly runs in to limitation...
>
>
> Your success with CMP will be directly tied to whose container you're
> using.
>
> Alex wrote:
> "It seems, that CMP is only good for TRIVIAL object relationships.  The
> minute a
> query needs to JOIN from more than one table in order to execute the find,
> CMP
> shows it's limitations."
>
> The last phase should end with "...the container I'm using shows it's
> limitations".
>
> We're using TopLink for WebLogic and although it's not perfect, it can
> support
> very complex finders, across classes (and their underlying tables) without
> even
> having to write the join.  While it may be appealing to strong coders to
> use
> BMP
> because it provides "total control", the nearly daily postings on this
> list
> with
> questions about how to implement the various EntityBean methods, provides
> strong
> evidence that control comes at a high price.
>
> I admit that I don't fully understand the nuances of what to handle in the
> finders and what to do in ejbLoad().  I'm oblivious to passivation and
> activation issues.  I'm very pleased that I don't have to be concerned
> with
> such
> low-level issues.  I'd rather concentrate on cranking out more and more
> robust
> beans in support of the business problem.
>
> -Tom
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alex Paransky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 8:23 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Implementing using CMP quickly runs in to limitation...
>
>
> I started to implement my system using CMP Entity Beans.  However, the
> minute I needed to execute a JOIN in order to implement one of the finder
> methods, I realized that I have a problem.  It seems, that CMP is only
> good
> for TRIVIAL object relationships.  The minute a query needs to JOIN from
> more than one table in order to execute the find, CMP shows it's
> limitations.  This means, that for all but the simplest of objects, I need
> to use BMP (which appears to be much slower).  Is this what most of you
> have
> found?  Am I missing something when it comes to CMP?
>
> Thanks.
> -AP_
>
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