My experience echos this. I think Ant is great for managing builds
and I will use a lightweight editor and Ant if I am making small changes
that need to be deployed to a production envionment. For testing or
debugging EJB or servlet apps VAJ is amazing.

Peter Booth

----- Original Message -----
From: "Aravind Naidu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: XEmacs & Ant or IDE?


> I graduated from vi/command line to IBM's Visual Age and JBuilder.
>
> Both are very impressive products as far as IDE's for EJB/Servlet/JSP
> development are concerned. Lately because of project considerations, I am
> using VAJ for development and have been impressed with it's Team
> capbabilities and it's tight integeration and unit testing environment for
> both Servlets and EJB's.
>
> Your productivity is definetly improved by using a tool as once you have
> understood the internals, such mundane task are left to be automatically
> completed by the tool.
> VAJ's compile on the fly technique is very impressive. For instance,  I
can
> have my test client (VAJ generated) running, find a bug in my EJB business
> method, leave the server and client running, correct the code and save and
> voila, can re-test the method without going thro' a compile/build cycle.
> The same applies to the servlet development environment too.
>
> We also use the Model 2 MVC pattern for presentation side logic and the
JSP
> execution monitor inside VAJ has been very useful.
>
> Finally, a lot depends on how comfortable you are with a tool. Coming from
> having worked with "vi" and command line stuff for yonks, it was difficult
> at first. But, the productivity aspects of using a good tool (IDE), I can
no
> longer ignore. Sufficient to say, I would find it hard to go back to
command
> line stuff.
>
> -- Aravind
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: A mailing list for Enterprise JavaBeans development
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stefan Arentz
> > Sent: Saturday, 29 April 2000 01:03
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: XEmacs & Ant or IDE?
> >
> >
> > Dear fellow Bean developers,
> >
> > For the last few weeks i've been developing EJBs and Servlet/JSP
> > applications using XEmacs, Ant and a command line. This works
> > great for me, and I think I have learned a lot about EJB internals
> > just by being exposed to the raw code for the deployment descriptors
> > and build process.
> >
> > However, my question to you is; are more people in the same situation,
> > and if you're using one of those nice graphical IDEs, how productive
> > are you? Do you like the tools? Etc.
> >
> >   Regards,
> >
> >     Stefan
> >
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