Not sure what Kawa adds to your equation, but considering that VA is free
and (my personal fave) Inprise JBuilder is a free download, wouldn't you
prefer a $0 solution?
jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christensen, Kurt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Offtopic] Testing EJB in VisualAge3.02
> OK, I don't want to beat a dead horse, but I will, since this is (almost)
on
> topic for this mailing list...
>
> I agree that VA + WebSphere is probably the richest development
environment
> in which to build EJBs, and I happen to be a fan of VA. I also agree that
> Kawa + J2EE can be limiting in some ways (having to redeploy when you make
> code changes is a pain). Having said that, I still prefer Kawa + J2EE, for
> the following reasons:
>
> - Kawa is $130, and the J2EE RI is free.
> - I don't know what VA Enterprise + WebSphere costs, but I bet it's a lot
> more than $130.
> - Visual Age and WebSphere are big fat enormous memory hogs.
> - Visual Age looks at the world differently. Those of us who didn't grow
up
> with Smalltalk aren't big fans of the shared repository ("Oh, two people
> were working on the same piece of code? Just have the 'owner' of that
piece
> of code do a diff!" "Ummm... don't I use source control so that I don't
> *have* to do diffs?!?")
> - I don't know a single person who didn't have difficulties installing
> WebSphere.
> - All of that "code generation" stuff doesn't mean much to me. How big of
a
> convenience is it *really* to have your Home interface generated? Maybe 20
> lines of code?
>
> Obviously, whatever tool works for you is the one to use. But until I
> absolutely need some functionality that isn't provided by Kawa/J2EE, I'll
> stick with my $130 solution.
>
> KurtC
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wolf Siberski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 8:55 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Offtopic]RE: Testing EJB in VisualAge3.02
>
>
> Kurt Christensen wrote:
> > I can do the same thing using Kawa and the J2EE Reference
> > Implementation!
> >
>
> Although offtopic, I have to disagree strongly.
> With VA You can get a simple EB up and running
> in about 3 Minutes, because it generates everything
> except Your business method implementations.
> You can change the implementation and test without
> having to redeploy Your bean.
> This is simply impossible with Kawa & J2EE.
>
> While I'm not so impressed from WebSphere,
> the EJB development environment of VA is
> the most productive I've seen yet.
>
> Wolf
>
>
>
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