Hi Emanuil, Indeed one of the things Senses does well is help you get started with ES. I'd argue that for someone new, there is nothing simpler than just installing a plugin on their dev setup. Actually, with Marvel they will also gain some other insights into what's going on.
Btw - Marvel is also packed as a zip which anyone can get by pointing a browser at https://download.elasticsearch.org/elasticsearch/marvel/marvel-latest.zip(which is documented) , unpack it using whatever and open the html files. On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Emanuil Tolev <[email protected]>wrote: > This worked perfectly (except the "open" bit since my Konsole's file > handling isn't quite set up). > > Worth putting these instructions on the sense repo, Boaz? Obviously with > note wrt Marvel usage on production clusters, just link to > http://www.elasticsearch.org/overview/marvel/ . The news it's rolled into > Marvel is already there. > > I am introducing somebody to ES, I'd really rather that they didn't simply > use Postman or similar REST clients just yet. The worst part of my initial > ES learning curve was exactly that, learning to construct the query and > mapping objects correctly and learning what goes where when I wanted > something done quickly. The learning process could have been sped up > significantly by the Sense autocompletion feature. > > +1 on that it's not x-platform, but as it's part of a commercial product > now it's up to the ES team to decide how much time they can dedicate to > packaging this tool neatly outside of that product. > > Greetings, > Emanuil > > > On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 10:22:23 AM UTC+1, kimchy wrote: > >> Here is how you do it now: >> >> wget https://download.elasticsearch.org/elasticsearch/marvel/marvel- >> latest.tar.gz >> tar -xzf marvel-latest.tar.gz >> open _site/sense/index.html >> >> >> On Apr 1, 2014, at 11:19, Shay Banon <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Heya, you can easily download Marvel and run Sense as a standalone app >> from Marvel. In the next version of Marvel, we will make it even simpler, >> in which case, even users that don't run Chrome (like myself ;) ) can more >> easily enjoy it. >> >> On Apr 1, 2014, at 11:05, Mark Walkom <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> +1 from me to this sentiment too, Sense as a standalone app is awesome. >> >> Regards, >> Mark Walkom >> >> Infrastructure Engineer >> Campaign Monitor >> email: [email protected] >> web: www.campaignmonitor.com >> >> >> On 1 April 2014 19:59, Nicholas Summerlin <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I agree with Itamar. I'm a recent Elasticsearch user and Sense made it >>> easier for me to learn the query syntax. I recommend it to all ES >>> beginners. I only learned of Marvel later. >>> >>> +1 for keeping the Chrome plugin on the Web Store, perhaps with a >>> disclaimer that it's incomplete and no longer maintained. >>> >>> -- >>> Nick >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Itamar Syn-Hershko <[email protected] >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> Boaz, >>>> >>>> Sense is a must-have tool for any developer playing with Elasticsearch, >>>> at least in my opinion. I use it daily to quickly sketch and test modeling >>>> ideas, or just to prove a point. This is also the first thing I ask my >>>> customers to install whenever I give on-site consults. >>>> >>>> I'd ask you and Elasticsearch to continue releasing Sense as a chrome >>>> plugin that we can install and use. Even if it gets updated less >>>> frequently, it's still an awesome tool and 80% is better than nothing. >>>> >>>> You can't rely on having Marvel installed for using Sense - it's an >>>> additional install step, and many remote staging/prod clusters don't have >>>> it installed. Sense is really great as a client-side independent thing. >>>> >>>> You can quote me on that: working with Elasticsearch is not the same >>>> without Sense available as a Chrome plugin. >>>> >>>> For your consideration, >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Itamar Syn-Hershko >>>> http://code972.com | @synhershko <https://twitter.com/synhershko> >>>> Freelance Developer & Consultant >>>> Author of RavenDB in Action <http://manning.com/synhershko/> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Boaz Leskes <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Tim, Ivan, >>>>> >>>>> Sense, the chrome extension, was started a hobby project of mine. I >>>>> did it in my spare time - I actually started it to prove it can be done >>>>> in >>>>> a weekend ;). As you know Sense is part of Marvel now where it will be >>>>> professionally developed and get way more time and love. The github repo >>>>> is >>>>> not maintained anymore and the code as published on GitHub will not be >>>>> developed further. I've updated the readme to make that more clear. >>>>> >>>>> As Tim noted, the Chrome extension has known bugs and does not support >>>>> all of 1.0's features (like Aggregations). Since bug fixes are all going >>>>> forward in Marvel, I've decided to remove the plugin from the Chrome Web >>>>> Store so new users will not have a bad initial experience. >>>>> >>>>> I (and many others) am always happy to answer any questions/issue >>>>> regard Marvel on the mailing list. If you find any issue, please post it >>>>> and it will be picked up. I know you both know this as we interacted >>>>> before, but I wanted to say again for anyone else that might read this in >>>>> the future. >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Boaz >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, March 28, 2014 5:19:38 PM UTC+1, Ivan Brusic wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I would have suggested opening an issue on Github to clarify the >>>>>> license, but issues are disabled on the repo. I agree that Sense is a >>>>>> fantastic tool. I deploy apps using the Java API, but I formulate my >>>>>> thoughts and queries beforehand with Sense. Beforehand I was just using >>>>>> straight curl commands. >>>>>> >>>>>> Boaz is a regular on the mailing list, he probably will chime in soon. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Ivan >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Tim S <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yeah, I cloned it locally in case it disappears and it seems to work >>>>>>> perfectly well standalone or as an elasticsearch plugin - IMO it doesn't >>>>>>> really need to be a chrome extension. But I guess its usefulness if >>>>>>> limited >>>>>>> if dev has stopped and the auto-complete isn't kept up-to-date with the >>>>>>> elasticsearch api. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also if I recommended my clients used it (which I would, because >>>>>>> it's one of the better rest front ends for ES I've come across because >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> the auto-complete) then they'd want to know whether they were actually >>>>>>> allowed to use it i.e. what licence it is. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Friday, March 28, 2014 2:50:04 PM UTC, Ivan Brusic wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I just forked it i case it goes away. I haven't built a Chrome >>>>>>>> extension in years. Let me re-figure out how to do it and update my >>>>>>>> fork >>>>>>>> with build/local installation instructions. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The lack of a license might be problematic since default copyright >>>>>>>> provisions apply: http://choosealicense.com/no-license/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Ivan >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 1:37 AM, Tim S <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I notice that https://github.com/bleskes/sense has a message >>>>>>>>> saying "The development of Sense has moved into Elasticsearch Marvel". >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Does this mean that no further development will happen on github? >>>>>>>>> I.e. if the Marvel team find bugs in sense will the fixes be pushed >>>>>>>>> to the >>>>>>>>> sense on github, and if I create a pull request on github will my fix >>>>>>>>> find >>>>>>>>> its way into the version of sense included in Marvel? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regardless of the answer to the above, does the code on github >>>>>>>>> have any kind of licence? 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