The Chrome plugin integration (or other x-platform executable of any kind) is a quick road to success which you really want to have with Sense. Requiring a Marvel download kinda beats this purpose.
And doing wget && tar && open isn't x-platform, nor easy. -- Itamar Syn-Hershko http://code972.com | @synhershko <https://twitter.com/synhershko> Freelance Developer & Consultant Author of RavenDB in Action <http://manning.com/synhershko/> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Shay Banon <[email protected]> wrote: > Heya, you can easily download Marvel and run Sense as a standalone app > from Marvel. In the next version of Marvel, we will make it even simpler, > in which case, even users that don't run Chrome (like myself ;) ) can more > easily enjoy it. > > On Apr 1, 2014, at 11:05, Mark Walkom <[email protected]> wrote: > > +1 from me to this sentiment too, Sense as a standalone app is awesome. > > Regards, > Mark Walkom > > Infrastructure Engineer > Campaign Monitor > email: [email protected] > web: www.campaignmonitor.com > > > On 1 April 2014 19:59, Nicholas Summerlin <[email protected]>wrote: > >> I agree with Itamar. I'm a recent Elasticsearch user and Sense made it >> easier for me to learn the query syntax. I recommend it to all ES >> beginners. I only learned of Marvel later. >> >> +1 for keeping the Chrome plugin on the Web Store, perhaps with a >> disclaimer that it's incomplete and no longer maintained. >> >> -- >> Nick >> >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Itamar Syn-Hershko >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Boaz, >>> >>> Sense is a must-have tool for any developer playing with Elasticsearch, >>> at least in my opinion. I use it daily to quickly sketch and test modeling >>> ideas, or just to prove a point. This is also the first thing I ask my >>> customers to install whenever I give on-site consults. >>> >>> I'd ask you and Elasticsearch to continue releasing Sense as a chrome >>> plugin that we can install and use. Even if it gets updated less >>> frequently, it's still an awesome tool and 80% is better than nothing. >>> >>> You can't rely on having Marvel installed for using Sense - it's an >>> additional install step, and many remote staging/prod clusters don't have >>> it installed. Sense is really great as a client-side independent thing. >>> >>> You can quote me on that: working with Elasticsearch is not the same >>> without Sense available as a Chrome plugin. >>> >>> For your consideration, >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Itamar Syn-Hershko >>> http://code972.com | @synhershko <https://twitter.com/synhershko> >>> Freelance Developer & Consultant >>> Author of RavenDB in Action <http://manning.com/synhershko/> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Boaz Leskes <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Tim, Ivan, >>>> >>>> Sense, the chrome extension, was started a hobby project of mine. I did >>>> it in my spare time - I actually started it to prove it can be done in a >>>> weekend ;). As you know Sense is part of Marvel now where it will be >>>> professionally developed and get way more time and love. The github repo is >>>> not maintained anymore and the code as published on GitHub will not be >>>> developed further. I've updated the readme to make that more clear. >>>> >>>> As Tim noted, the Chrome extension has known bugs and does not support >>>> all of 1.0's features (like Aggregations). Since bug fixes are all going >>>> forward in Marvel, I've decided to remove the plugin from the Chrome Web >>>> Store so new users will not have a bad initial experience. >>>> >>>> I (and many others) am always happy to answer any questions/issue >>>> regard Marvel on the mailing list. If you find any issue, please post it >>>> and it will be picked up. I know you both know this as we interacted >>>> before, but I wanted to say again for anyone else that might read this in >>>> the future. >>>> Cheers, >>>> Boaz >>>> >>>> On Friday, March 28, 2014 5:19:38 PM UTC+1, Ivan Brusic wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I would have suggested opening an issue on Github to clarify the >>>>> license, but issues are disabled on the repo. I agree that Sense is a >>>>> fantastic tool. I deploy apps using the Java API, but I formulate my >>>>> thoughts and queries beforehand with Sense. Beforehand I was just using >>>>> straight curl commands. >>>>> >>>>> Boaz is a regular on the mailing list, he probably will chime in soon. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Ivan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Tim S <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yeah, I cloned it locally in case it disappears and it seems to work >>>>>> perfectly well standalone or as an elasticsearch plugin - IMO it doesn't >>>>>> really need to be a chrome extension. But I guess its usefulness if >>>>>> limited >>>>>> if dev has stopped and the auto-complete isn't kept up-to-date with the >>>>>> elasticsearch api. >>>>>> >>>>>> Also if I recommended my clients used it (which I would, because it's >>>>>> one of the better rest front ends for ES I've come across because of the >>>>>> auto-complete) then they'd want to know whether they were actually >>>>>> allowed >>>>>> to use it i.e. what licence it is. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Friday, March 28, 2014 2:50:04 PM UTC, Ivan Brusic wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I just forked it i case it goes away. I haven't built a Chrome >>>>>>> extension in years. Let me re-figure out how to do it and update my fork >>>>>>> with build/local installation instructions. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The lack of a license might be problematic since default copyright >>>>>>> provisions apply: http://choosealicense.com/no-license/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Ivan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 1:37 AM, Tim S <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I notice that https://github.com/bleskes/sense has a message >>>>>>>> saying "The development of Sense has moved into Elasticsearch Marvel". >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Does this mean that no further development will happen on github? >>>>>>>> I.e. if the Marvel team find bugs in sense will the fixes be pushed to >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> sense on github, and if I create a pull request on github will my fix >>>>>>>> find >>>>>>>> its way into the version of sense included in Marvel? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regardless of the answer to the above, does the code on github have >>>>>>>> any kind of licence? 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