Brian,

On 30 juin 2014, at 22:59, Brian wrote:

> Well, I did answer your question. But probably not from the direction you 
> expected.

hmm no, you didn't. My question was: "it looks like I cant retrieve/display 
[_all fields] content. Any idea?" and you replied with your logstash template 
where _all is disabled.
I'm interested in disabling _all, but that was not my question at this point.
 
Your answer to my second message, below, is informative and interesting but 
fails to answer my second question too. I simply asked whether I need to feed 
the complete modified mapping of my template or if I can just push the modified 
part (ie. the _all:{enabled: false} part).


> When I create and manage specific indices, I lock down Elasticsearch. When I 
> update the mappings, I understand that ES will not allow the mapping for an 
> existing field to be modified in an incompatible way. So I only update to add 
> new fields, and never to change or remove an existing field.
> 
> For time-based indices as used by the ELK stack, it makes the most sense to 
> me to create an on-disk mapping template. So I always disable the all field 
> and pre-map a subset of string fields as shown in my previous post. I do this 
> because when the next day arrives and logstash causes a new index to be 
> created, that new index will also set my default mapping from the template.
> 
> I don't disable the _all field in an existing index that currently has it 
> enabled. I don't know if it would succeed or fail, but I would not expect it 
> to be successful.
> 
> Instead, based on my previous experience with ES, I disable the _all field 
> and have disabled it from the very first test deployment of the ELK stack in 
> our group. And then I configured my ES startup script to set message as the 
> default field for a Lucene query. This was already set up and working when I 
> let others have access to it for the very first time. So I don't know the 
> answer to your specific question.
> 
> But I do know that a lot of experimentation went into my ELK configurations 
> before I let anyone else look at it for the very first time. So don't be 
> afraid to change your mappings and leave the old ones behind, and re-add data 
> as needed to get everything just the way you want it.
> 
> Brian
> 
> On Monday, June 30, 2014 1:22:34 AM UTC-4, Patrick Proniewski wrote:
> Brian, 
> 
> Thank you for the reply, even if it does not answer my question. 
> 
> By the way, how am I supposed to change a mapping setting? Do I have to push 
> back the entire mapping with one line modified, or can I just push something 
> like: 
> 
> { 
>   "logstash": { 
>      "mappings": { 
>         "_default_": { 
>            "_all": { 
>               "enabled": false 
>            } 
>         } 
>      } 
>   } 
> } 
> 
> 
> 
> On 20 juin 2014, at 23:04, Brian wrote: 
> 
> > Patrick, 
> > 
> > Here's my template, along with where the _all field is disabled. You may 
> > wish to add this setting to your own template, and then also add the index 
> > setting to ignore malformed data (if someone's log entry occasionally slips 
> > in "null" or "no-data" instead of the usual numeric value): 
> > 
> > { 
> >   "automap" : { 
> >     "template" : "logstash-*", 
> >     "settings" : { 
> >       "index.mapping.ignore_malformed" : true 
> >     }, 
> >     "mappings" : { 
> >       "_default_" : { 
> >         "numeric_detection" : true, 
> >         "_all" : { "enabled" : false }, 
> >         "properties" : { 
> >           "message" : { "type" : "string" }, 
> >           "host" : { "type" : "string" }, 
> >           "UUID" : {  "type" : "string", "index" : "not_analyzed" }, 
> >           "logdate" : {  "type" : "string", "index" : "no" } 
> >         } 
> >       } 
> >     } 
> >   } 
> > } 
> > 
> > Brian 
> 

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