All,

This seems apropos to the current discussion and could help clear up some 
confusion on recommendations etc.  We, Elasticsearch, are hosting a Webinar 
on ELK, given by the Logstash creator, Jordan Sissel.

Its today in 40 minutes.
http://www.elasticsearch.org/webinars/introduction-elk-stack/


On Wednesday, July 2, 2014 6:08:34 AM UTC-7, Brian wrote:
>
>
> Patrick, 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *> Well, I did answer your question. But probably not from the direction 
>> you expected. hmm no, you didn't. My question was: "it looks like I cant 
>> retrieve/display [_all fields] content. Any idea?" and you replied with 
>> your logstash template where _all is disabled. I'm interested in disabling 
>> _all, but that was not my question at this point.*
>>
>
> Fair enough. I don't know the inner details; I am just an enthusiastic end 
> user.
>
> To the best of my knowledge, there is no content for the _all field; I 
> view this as an Elasticsearch psuedo field whose name is _all and whose 
> index terms are taken from all fields (by default), but still there is no 
> actual content for it.
>
> And after I got into the habit of disabling the _all field, my hands-on 
> exploration of its nuances have ended. It's time for the experts to explain!
>  
>
>>   
>> *Your answer to my second message, below, is informative and interesting 
>> but fails to answer my second question too. I simply asked whether I need 
>> to feed the complete modified mapping of my template or if I can just push 
>> the modified part (ie. the _all:{enabled: false} part). *
>>
>
>  Again, I have never done this, so I can only tell you what I do. I just 
> cannot tell you all the nuances of what Elasticsearch is capable of.
>
> My recommendation is to try it. Elasticsearch is great at letting you 
> experiment and then telling you clearly if your attempt succeeds or fails.
>
> So, try your scenario. If it fails, then it didn't work or you did 
> something wrong. If it succeeds, then you can see exactly what 
> Elasticsearch actually accepted as your mapping. For example:
>
> curl 'http://localhost:9200/logstash-2014.06.30/_mapping?pretty=true' && 
> echo
>
> This particular query looks at one of my logstash-generated indices, and 
> it lets me verify that Elasticsearch and Logstash conspired to create the 
> mappings I expected. I used this command quite a bit until I finally got 
> everything configured correctly. (I actually verify the mapping via 
> Elasticsearch Head, but under the covers it's the same command.)
>
> Brian
>

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