The limit of a node is hard to definitively know as use cases vary so much,
but from what I have seen 3TB on 3 nodes is pretty dense.

On 12 March 2015 at 08:09, Chris Neal <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thank you Mark.
>
> May I ask what about my answers caused you to say "definitely"? :)  I want
> to better understand capacity related items for ES for sure.
>
> Many thanks!
> Chris
>
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Mark Walkom <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Then you're definitely going to be seeing node pressure. I'd add another
>> one or two and see how things look after that.
>>
>> On 11 March 2015 at 07:21, Chris Neal <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Again Mark, thank you for your time :)
>>>
>>> 157 Indicies
>>> 928 Shards
>>> Daily indexing that adds 7 indexes per day
>>> Each index has 3 shards and 1 replica
>>> 2.27TB of data in the cluster
>>> Index rate averages about 1500/sec
>>> IOps on the servers is ~40
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 7:57 PM, Mark Walkom <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It looks like heap pressure.
>>>> How many indices, how many shards, how much data do you have in the
>>>> cluster?
>>>>
>>>> On 8 March 2015 at 19:24, Chris Neal <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thank you Mark for your reply.
>>>>>
>>>>> I do have Marvel running, on a separate cluster even, so I do have
>>>>> that data from the time of the problem.  I've attached 4 screenshots for
>>>>> reference.
>>>>>
>>>>> It appears that node 10.0.0.12 (the green line on the charts) had
>>>>> issues.  The heap usage drops from 80% to 0%.  I'm guessing that is some
>>>>> sort of crash, because the heap should not empty itself.  Also its load
>>>>> goes to 0.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also see a lot of Old GC duration on 10.0.0.45 (blue line).  Lots of
>>>>> excessive Old GC Counts, so it does appear that the problem was memory
>>>>> pressure on this node.  That's what I was thinking, but was hoping for
>>>>> validation on that.
>>>>>
>>>>> If it was, I'm hoping to get some suggestions on what to do about it.
>>>>> As I mentioned in the original post, I've tweaked I think needs tweaking
>>>>> based on the system, and it still happens.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe it's just that I'm pushing the cluster too much for the
>>>>> resources I'm giving it, and it "just won't work".
>>>>>
>>>>> The index rate was only about 2500/sec, and the search request rate
>>>>> had one small spike that went to 3.0.  But 3 searches in one timeslice is
>>>>> nothing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks again for the help and reading all this stuff.  It is
>>>>> appreciated.  Hopefully I can get a solution to keep the cluster stable.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Mark Walkom <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> You really need some kind of monitoring, like Marvel, around this to
>>>>>> give you an idea of what was happening prior to the OOM.
>>>>>> Generally a node becoming unresponsive will be due to GC, so take a
>>>>>> look at the timings there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5 March 2015 at 02:32, Chris Neal <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm hoping someone can help me piece together the below log
>>>>>>> entries/stack traces/Exceptions.  I have a 3 node cluster in 
>>>>>>> Development in
>>>>>>> EC2, and two of them had issues.  I'm running ES 1.4.4, 32GB RAM, 16GB
>>>>>>> heaps, dedicated servers to ES.  My idex rate averages about 10k/sec.
>>>>>>> There were no searches going on at the time of the incident.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It appears to me that node 10.0.0.12 began timing out requests to
>>>>>>> 10.0.45, indicating that 10.0.0.45 was having issues.
>>>>>>> Then at 4:36, 10.0.0.12 logs the ERROR about "Uncaught exception:
>>>>>>>  IndexWriter already closed", caused by an OOME.
>>>>>>> Then at 4:43, 10.0.0.45 hits the "Create failed" WARN, and logs an
>>>>>>> OOME.
>>>>>>> Then things are basically down and unresponsive.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is weird to me is that if 10.0.0.45 was the node having issues,
>>>>>>> why did 10.0.0.12 log an exception 7 minutes before that?  Did both 
>>>>>>> nodes
>>>>>>> run out of memory?  Or is one of the Exceptions actually saying, "I see
>>>>>>> that this other node hit an OOME, and I'm telling you about it."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a few values tweaked in the elasticsearch.yml file to try and
>>>>>>> keep this from happening (configured from Puppet):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     'indices.breaker.fielddata.limit' => '20%',
>>>>>>>     'indices.breaker.total.limit' => '25%',
>>>>>>>     'indices.breaker.request.limit' => '10%',
>>>>>>>     'index.merge.scheduler.type' => 'concurrent',
>>>>>>>     'index.merge.scheduler.max_thread_count' => '1',
>>>>>>>     'index.merge.policy.type' => 'tiered',
>>>>>>>     'index.merge.policy.max_merged_segment' => '1gb',
>>>>>>>     'index.merge.policy.segments_per_tier' => '4',
>>>>>>>     'index.merge.policy.max_merge_at_once' => '4',
>>>>>>>     'index.merge.policy.max_merge_at_once_explicit' => '4',
>>>>>>>     'indices.memory.index_buffer_size' => '10%',
>>>>>>>     'indices.store.throttle.type' => 'none',
>>>>>>>     'index.translog.flush_threshold_size' => '1GB',
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have done a fair bit of reading on this, and have tried about
>>>>>>> everything I can think of. :(
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can anyone tell me what caused this scenario, and what can be done
>>>>>>> to avoid it?
>>>>>>> Thank you so much for taking the time to read this.
>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> =====
>>>>>>> *On server 10.0.0.12 <http://10.0.0.12>:*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [2015-03-04 03:56:12,548][WARN ][transport                ]
>>>>>>> [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-12] Received response for a request that has 
>>>>>>> timed
>>>>>>> out, sent [20456ms] ago, timed out [5392ms] ago, action
>>>>>>> [cluster:monitor/nodes/st
>>>>>>> ats[n]], node
>>>>>>> [[elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-45][i4gmsxs0Q0eyvPWjajNV5A][ip-10-0-0-45.us-west-2.compute.internal][inet[ip-10-0-0-45.us-west-2.compute.internal/10.0.0.45:9300]]{master=true}],
>>>>>>> id [70061596]
>>>>>>> [2015-03-04 04:06:02,407][INFO ][index.engine.internal    ]
>>>>>>> [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-12] [derbysoft-ihg-20150304][2] now throttling
>>>>>>> indexing: numMergesInFlight=4, maxNumMerges=3
>>>>>>> [2015-03-04 04:06:04,141][INFO ][index.engine.internal    ]
>>>>>>> [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-12] [derbysoft-ihg-20150304][2] stop throttling
>>>>>>> indexing: numMergesInFlight=2, maxNumMerges=3
>>>>>>> [2015-03-04 04:12:26,194][WARN ][transport                ]
>>>>>>> [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-12] Received response for a request that has 
>>>>>>> timed
>>>>>>> out, sent [15709ms] ago, timed out [708ms] ago, action
>>>>>>> [cluster:monitor/nodes/sta
>>>>>>> ts[n]], node
>>>>>>> [[elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-45][i4gmsxs0Q0eyvPWjajNV5A][ip-10-0-0-45.us-west-2.compute.internal][inet[ip-10-0-0-45.us-west-2.compute.internal/10.0.0.45:9300]]{master=true}],
>>>>>>> id [70098828]
>>>>>>> [2015-03-04 04:23:40,778][WARN ][transport                ]
>>>>>>> [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-12] Received response for a request that has 
>>>>>>> timed
>>>>>>> out, sent [21030ms] ago, timed out [6030ms] ago, action
>>>>>>> [cluster:monitor/nodes/st
>>>>>>> ats[n]], node
>>>>>>> [[elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-45][i4gmsxs0Q0eyvPWjajNV5A][ip-10-0-0-45.us-west-2.compute.internal][inet[ip-10-0-0-45.us-west-2.compute.internal/10.0.0.45:9300]]{master=true}],
>>>>>>> id [70124234]
>>>>>>> [2015-03-04 04:24:47,023][WARN ][transport                ]
>>>>>>> [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-12] Received response for a request that has 
>>>>>>> timed
>>>>>>> out, sent [27275ms] ago, timed out [12275ms] ago, action
>>>>>>> [cluster:monitor/nodes/s
>>>>>>> tats[n]], node
>>>>>>> [[elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-45][i4gmsxs0Q0eyvPWjajNV5A][ip-10-0-0-45.us-west-2.compute.internal][inet[ip-10-0-0-45.us-west-2.compute.internal/10.0.0.45:9300]]{master=true}],
>>>>>>> id [70126273]
>>>>>>> [2015-03-04 04:25:39,180][WARN ][transport                ]
>>>>>>> [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-12] Received response for a request that has 
>>>>>>> timed
>>>>>>> out, sent [19431ms] ago, timed out [4431ms] ago, action
>>>>>>> [cluster:monitor/nodes/st
>>>>>>> ats[n]], node
>>>>>>> [[elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-45][i4gmsxs0Q0eyvPWjajNV5A][ip-10-0-0-45.us-west-2.compute.internal][inet[ip-10-0-0-45.us-west-2.compute.internal/10.0.0.45:9300]]{master=true}],
>>>>>>> id [70127835]
>>>>>>> [2015-03-04 04:26:40,775][WARN ][transport                ]
>>>>>>> [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-12] Received response for a request that has 
>>>>>>> timed
>>>>>>> out, sent [19241ms] ago, timed out [4241ms] ago, action
>>>>>>> [cluster:monitor/nodes/st
>>>>>>> ats[n]], node
>>>>>>> [[elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-45][i4gmsxs0Q0eyvPWjajNV5A][ip-10-0-0-45.us-west-2.compute.internal][inet[ip-10-0-0-45.us-west-2.compute.internal/10.0.0.45:9300]]{master=true}],
>>>>>>> id [70129981]
>>>>>>> [2015-03-04 04:27:14,329][WARN ][transport                ]
>>>>>>> [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-12] Received response for a request that has 
>>>>>>> timed
>>>>>>> out, sent [22676ms] ago, timed out [6688ms] ago, action
>>>>>>> [cluster:monitor/nodes/stats[n]], node
>>>>>>> [[elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-45][i4gmsxs0Q0eyvPWjajNV5A][ip-10-0-0-45.us-west-2.compute.internal][inet[ip-10-0-0-45.us-west-2.compute.internal/10.0.0.45:9300]]{master=true}],
>>>>>>> id [70130668]
>>>>>>> [2015-03-04 04:28:15,695][WARN ][transport                ]
>>>>>>> [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-12] Received response for a request that has 
>>>>>>> timed
>>>>>>> out, sent [24042ms] ago, timed out [9041ms] ago, action
>>>>>>> [cluster:monitor/nodes/stats[n]], node
>>>>>>> [[elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-45][i4gmsxs0Q0eyvPWjajNV5A][ip-10-0-0-45.us-west-2.compute.internal][inet[ip-10-0-0-45.us-west-2.compute.internal/10.0.0.45:9300]]{master=true}],
>>>>>>> id [70132644]
>>>>>>> [2015-03-04 04:29:38,102][WARN ][transport                ]
>>>>>>> [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-12] Received response for a request that has 
>>>>>>> timed
>>>>>>> out, sent [16448ms] ago, timed out [1448ms] ago, action
>>>>>>> [cluster:monitor/nodes/stats[n]], node
>>>>>>> [[elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-45][i4gmsxs0Q0eyvPWjajNV5A][ip-10-0-0-45.us-west-2.compute.internal][inet[ip-10-0-0-45.us-west-2.compute.internal/10.0.0.45:9300]]{master=true}],
>>>>>>> id [70135333]
>>>>>>> [2015-03-04 04:33:42,393][WARN ][transport                ]
>>>>>>> [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-12] Received response for a request that has 
>>>>>>> timed
>>>>>>> out, sent [20738ms] ago, timed out [5737ms] ago, action
>>>>>>> [cluster:monitor/nodes/stats[n]], node
>>>>>>> [[elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-45][i4gmsxs0Q0eyvPWjajNV5A][ip-10-0-0-45.us-west-2.compute.internal][inet[ip-10-0-0-45.us-west-2.compute.internal/10.0.0.45:9300]]{master=true}],
>>>>>>> id [70142427]
>>>>>>> [2015-03-04 04:36:08,788][ERROR][marvel.agent             ]
>>>>>>> [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-12] Background thread had an uncaught 
>>>>>>> exception:
>>>>>>> org.apache.lucene.store.AlreadyClosedException: this IndexWriter is
>>>>>>> closed
>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>> org.apache.lucene.index.IndexWriter.ensureOpen(IndexWriter.java:698)
>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>> org.apache.lucene.index.IndexWriter.ensureOpen(IndexWriter.java:712)
>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>> org.apache.lucene.index.IndexWriter.ramBytesUsed(IndexWriter.java:462)
>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>> org.elasticsearch.index.engine.internal.InternalEngine.segmentsStats(InternalEngine.java:1224)
>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>> org.elasticsearch.index.shard.service.InternalIndexShard.segmentStats(InternalIndexShard.java:555)
>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>> org.elasticsearch.action.admin.indices.stats.CommonStats.<init>(CommonStats.java:170)
>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>> org.elasticsearch.action.admin.indices.stats.ShardStats.<init>(ShardStats.java:49)
>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>> org.elasticsearch.indices.InternalIndicesService.stats(InternalIndicesService.java:212)
>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>> org.elasticsearch.indices.InternalIndicesService.stats(InternalIndicesService.java:172)
>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>> org.elasticsearch.node.service.NodeService.stats(NodeService.java:138)
>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>> org.elasticsearch.marvel.agent.AgentService$ExportingWorker.exportNodeStats(AgentService.java:300)
>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>> org.elasticsearch.marvel.agent.AgentService$ExportingWorker.run(AgentService.java:225)
>>>>>>>         at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:745)
>>>>>>> Caused by: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> =====
>>>>>>> *On server 10.0.0.45 <http://10.0.0.45>:*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [2015-03-04 04:43:27,245][WARN ][index.engine.internal    ]
>>>>>>> [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-45] [myindex-20150304][1] failed engine
>>>>>>> [indices:data/write/bulk[s] failed on replica]
>>>>>>> org.elasticsearch.index.engine.CreateFailedEngineException:
>>>>>>> [myindex-20150304][1] Create failed for [my_type#AUvjGHoiku-fZf277h_4]
>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>> org.elasticsearch.index.engine.internal.InternalEngine.create(InternalEngine.java:421)
>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>> org.elasticsearch.index.shard.service.InternalIndexShard.create(InternalIndexShard.java:403)
>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>> org.elasticsearch.action.bulk.TransportShardBulkAction.shardOperationOnReplica(TransportShardBulkAction.java:595)
>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>> org.elasticsearch.action.support.replication.TransportShardReplicationOperationAction$ReplicaOperationTransportHandler.messageReceived(TransportShardReplicationOperationAction.java:246)
>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>> org.elasticsearch.action.support.replication.TransportShardReplicationOperationAction$ReplicaOperationTransportHandler.messageReceived(TransportShardReplicationOperationAction.java:225)
>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>> org.elasticsearch.transport.netty.MessageChannelHandler$RequestHandler.run(MessageChannelHandler.java:275)
>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>> java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1145)
>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>> java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:615)
>>>>>>>         at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:745)
>>>>>>> Caused by: org.apache.lucene.store.AlreadyClosedException: this
>>>>>>> IndexWriter is closed
>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>> org.apache.lucene.index.IndexWriter.ensureOpen(IndexWriter.java:698)
>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>> org.apache.lucene.index.IndexWriter.ensureOpen(IndexWriter.java:712)
>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>> org.apache.lucene.index.IndexWriter.updateDocument(IndexWriter.java:1507)
>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>> org.apache.lucene.index.IndexWriter.addDocument(IndexWriter.java:1246)
>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>> org.elasticsearch.index.engine.internal.InternalEngine.innerCreateNoLock(InternalEngine.java:502)
>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>> org.elasticsearch.index.engine.internal.InternalEngine.innerCreate(InternalEngine.java:444)
>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>> org.elasticsearch.index.engine.internal.InternalEngine.create(InternalEngine.java:413)
>>>>>>>         ... 8 more
>>>>>>> Caused by: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> =====
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