Alan,

Thanks for the excellent answers.  So, if you created a signal level calibration
would the Elecraft XG2 be a bitting and accurate signal source?  Or, would some
lab equipment be needed.  Actually, I don't really know how the XG2 compares
to some lab quality equipment, it may be just as accurate.

PEH


On Sep 4, 2010, at 11:42 AM, Alan Bloom wrote:

>> My first question is: what is a reasonable setting?
> 
> It's kind of a "season to taste" -- whatever gives a pleasing display to
> your eyes.  When the waterfall is turned on, I find that it's best to
> adjust the REF LVL so that the noise level is right at the bottom of the
> spectrum screen.  That seems to make weak signals easiest to spot on the
> waterfall.
> 
>> I am not quite sure how accurate this is.
> 
> I would guess that typically it should be within a few dB.  Let's say
> within one S-unit (6 dB).  I plan to add a feature so you can calibrate
> it against an accurate signal source.
> 
>> ...and noticed that this particular SSB signal on 17 meter band this morning 
>> read peak about -100 dBm or about a 32 dBm strength over the minimum reading 
>> on the scale.  I would like to equate this to a rough idea of an S meter 
>> reading.  By my calculations, this should be a little bit above an S4 
>> reading.  Can someone confirm that I am in the right ball park?
> 
> What I do is to remember that S9 is -73 dBm (an easy number for a ham to
> remember) and there's 6 dB per S-unit.  So -100 dBm is (100-73)/6 = 4.5
> S-units below S9.  So between S4 and S5.
> 
> Another item on my "to-do" list is a MENU option to change the scale
> from dBm to S-units and dB over S9.  It's not all that hard to do, I
> just need to clear some higher-priority tasks off the list first.
> 
> Alan N1AL
> 
> 
> On Sat, 2010-09-04 at 09:12 -0700, Phil Hystad wrote:
>> I am trying to get a better understanding of the P3 signal level scale (left 
>> vertical scale) with respect to absolute signal levels and the S meter 
>> readings.
>> 
>> I have my REF LVL set to -132 dBm.  My first question is: what is a 
>> reasonable setting?  I merely am guessing at the value of -132 dBm and also 
>> I am not quite sure how accurate this is.  According to the P3 manual, this 
>> is essentially the signal strength at the antenna terminal of my K3 (taking 
>> into account the pre amplifier which I happen to have Off).
>> 
>> Also, I was monitoring a signal using the PEAK reading capability of the P3 
>> and noticed that this particular SSB signal on 17 meter band this morning 
>> read peak about -100 dBm or about a 32 dBm strength over the minimum reading 
>> on the scale.  I would like to equate this to a rough idea of an S meter 
>> reading.  By my calculations, this should be a little bit above an S4 
>> reading.  Can someone confirm that I am in the right ball park?
>> 
>> Thanks for the help.
>> 73, phil, K7PEH
>> 
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