Oh yes, my mistake, the APF doesn't move with the shift.. like it probably should since it is actually moving within the passband area... So there you go.. CHANGE THAT TOO... When you move your IF shift, and then turn on the APF the APF indicator defaults to show up right where the SHIFT was set (off center or not), as it should. But it should also move around like the Shift does since it's moving within that passband area. After all, this is supposed to be a representation icon of the APF, isn't it? The wings SHOULDN'T be set at Maximum, that was EXACTLY my point.. they should reflect the WIDTH of the filter being used outside of the APF area.. The APF size shouldn't change because that IS fixed at a particular size right now. When and if Wayne adds the Variable Q to the APF that change in the Q size should THEN make the center APF size change... NOT the WIDTH knob as it does now.. They have NO correlation to one another. The outer Wings don't represent ANYTHING other than a mode.. which can be done with a little display that says APF when it's on... Just like EVERY THING else does when it's on on the K3 (VOX, QSK, ANT 1/2, NOTCH, PRE, NB, NR, FL1-5, ATU, RIT, SPLIT). Just add that one too, if you can find a place for it. If not, or you're dead set on having those little wings there instead of a little 'APF' indicator, fine, put them there.. but at least represent the IF Width and the APF width separately and properly.. they shouldn't just be combined together, that's a misrepresentation of the feature. And I know how Wayne is set on having correlation to all his designs and their respective displays and or keys they're placed on. > Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 20:07:04 -0400 > From: li...@subich.com > To: notforc...@hotmail.com > CC: pkir...@fuse.net; elecraft@mailman.qth.net; n...@elecraft.com > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] APF and Normalized Filter Passband Display > > > The "wings" are already set at maximum width and the "center" changes > to show the selected DSP width. Shift does not move the DSP "peak" > when APF is engaged and the display reflects that fact. > > 73, > > ... Joe, W4TV > > > On 11/5/2010 6:37 PM, The Smiths wrote: > > > > My suggestion to stop this confusion was to have the "wings" set by the > > WIDTH control. Whereas they will move wider or more narrow depending on the > > main Width setting. The center peak should ONLY show the width of the > > actual Audio Peak Filter itself. > > > > When you move the Fc Shift control for the APF it can still travel around > > like it does now. Nothing would change with that. Later on if or when Wayne > > adds the ability to widen the Q of the Peak filter, than when you do so you > > would clearly be able to see the CENTER Peak filter getting larger or > > smaller to indicate the width of the APF. > > This both seems logical to me, and leaves room for upgrades later on. > > > > There's no need for anyone to argue the point whether or not we need the > > Variable Q regarding this post. I'm only suggesting at this time that the > > OUTTER "WINGS" move to show the Width of the filter being used around the > > APF. That's all. > > > > > > > > > >> Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 12:45:30 -0400 > >> From: li...@subich.com > >> To: pkir...@fuse.net > >> CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] APF and Normalized Filter Passband Display > >> > >> > >>> Recalling NORM2 changes the APF shift back to its normalized setting. > >>> But the "wings" don't change when that happens. > >> > >> The "Wings" don't change as long as APF is on. If you saved NORM2 with > >> APF on, recalling NORM2 turns APF on (and displays the wings). > >> > >> 73, > >> > >> ... Joe, W4TV > >> > >> > >> On 11/5/2010 1:13 PM, Paul Kirley wrote: > >>> Recalling NORM2 changes the APF shift back to its normalized setting. > >>> But the "wings" don't change when that happens. > >>> > >>> 73, Paul W8TM > >>> > >>> At 11:57 AM 11/5/10 -0400, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: > >>>> > >>>> When APF is engaged, the shift knob no longer shifts the IF/DSP - > >>>> it moves (shifts) the audio peak within the IF passband. Thus, > >>>> the IF/DSP response display does not change. Note - adjusting > >>>> the WIDTH control will change the width of the "center" portion > >>>> of the display as the IF/DSP width changes but the "wings" will > >>>> remain. > >>> > >>> > >> ______________________________________________________________ > >> Elecraft mailing list > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >> > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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