I haven't had lots of different tuners to compare myself, but I do have
a Johnson KW Matchbox tuner. It does a great job on Balanced lines. I didn't really know about the Palastar but just checked it out on the website. Looked like an interesting tuner. But to me the downside of it was that there is a balun on the output, which of course as Don stated is a dominating factor in losses in a tuner (at least maybe that is what I took away from his comments as well as other discussions on this subject in the past). Is there a modern tuner out there for balanced lines that doesn't use a balun?

I don't know of any. There is nothing wrong with using a balun as long as the balun is looking into a relatively low SWR . The baluns we are all familiar with only work well when feeding a balanced load that is fairly flat. In other words the balun ought to be at the INPUT of the tuner instead of the OUTPUT. This makes the tuner electrically and mechanically much more complex and expensive and that is why you don't see it done very often. As John said .. half a db or so does not matter as far as signal strength at the receiving station is concerned. The only problem is that the power dissipation could damage the tuner or balun itself at the transmitting station.

As a purist with lots of time on my hands I am trying for the best of all worlds by building a true balanced L-C-L tuner with a balun at the input. It is an auto tuner with all of the bells and whistles and will (probably .. I think) handle up to 500 watts into my big wire antenna (but probably not into shorter antennas). I am going to put it into a K2 case with matching button switches and a similar LCD. It is working now on the benchtop at low power levels but it remains to be seen if, when packed tightly into a small case, I can keep the PIC controller circuits sufficiently free of rf interference at high power levels.

Don K7FJ
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