Does not offend me Jim! Was just puzzled.
The math is hard having forgotten most of that myself especially as I only barely understood it back in college 40 years ago. The book I am reading, "The Maxwellians," is more a science history book than a book on the equations themselves. Interesting reading about the scientists and how they worked this out. How some ideas survived and some did not. 73, tom n4zpt On 3/10/2011 10:56 AM, JAMES ROGERS wrote: > I am sure what you say has value Tom. It just seems this one has been > going on a while. It did prompt me to go out and look up Maxwells > equations just to see what you were all talking about and it is > interesting but the math is certainly over my head. I hope my > comments did not offend anyone. If so, I apologize, sincerely. > > 73s Jim On Mar 10, 2011, at 9:42 AM, Tom Azlin N4ZPT wrote: > >> Sorry you are not enjoying the thread James. >> >> Seems like many of the email on this reflector has nothing to do >> with the K3. I'm an average user of the K3 (and an in progress K2 >> builder). Talking about the actual equations and the history of >> their development seems to me to be of general interest to many of >> the readers of this list given the other responses. >> >> 73, tom n4zpt >> >> On 3/10/2011 10:06 AM, JAMES ROGERS wrote: >>> Enough with the Maxwell Equations.... What in the world does this >>> represent to the average K3 user? . On Mar 10, 2011, at 8:21 AM, >>> Tom Azlin N4ZPT wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Kevin, >>>> >>>> What was asserted in "The Maxwellians" was that Maxwell died in >>>> the middle of a rewrite. It did sound like there was a >>>> controversy on his particle (or little eddies?) form of the >>>> equations for a field approach. Perhaps that new version would >>>> have dropped the use of quaternions? Have not studied the >>>> equations since college, perhaps will go find the papers after >>>> I finish this history book. Thanks for the tip on locating the >>>> older forms. >>>> >>>> 73, tom n4zpt >>>> >>>> On 3/10/2011 1:46 AM, Kevin Rock wrote: >>>>> There was a group which disliked his use of quaternions so he >>>>> was forced to rewrite the system into other systems. Most of >>>>> the work was carried out by others but for him to publish he >>>>> needed peer review so he caved into the larger group. I am >>>>> reading his original work from 1873 and finding it very >>>>> enlightening. Even though I have studied the >>>>> Heaviside-Gibb's version of the Maxwell equations many times >>>>> the quaternions he used in the original paper were very hard >>>>> to find. Luckily they are proliferating online these days. >>>>> Kevin. KD5ONS >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, 09 Mar 2011 15:31:18 -0800, David >>>>> Cutter<d.cut...@ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I don't recall that from his biography, I'll have to read >>>>>> it again. Interesting. >>>>>> >>>>>> David G3UNA >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Kevin, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Was not Maxwell that condensed the hard to understand >>>>>>> original theory. Was some his disciples, aka "The >>>>>>> Maxwellians," that finished the theory in the present >>>>>>> form. FitzGerald, Lodge, and Heavyside plus others. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Am just now reading "The Maxwellians" that has this >>>>>>> story. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 73, tom n4zpt >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 3/6/2011 5:37 PM, Kevin Rock wrote: >>>>>>>> I have always wondered how he condensed the original >>>>>>>> twenty equations in twenty unknowns down to just four >>>>>>>> of them. The quaternions he used initially were out a >>>>>>>> favor with the physics community of the day so he >>>>>>>> needed to get them into vector form. Heaviside did a >>>>>>>> good job but how do you characterize a system with >>>>>>>> twenty unknowns in four equations? What has been lost >>>>>>>> in the translation? Kevin. 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