I for one have been enjoying the thread.

Gary W2CS


> -----Original Message-----
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-
> boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Tom Azlin N4ZPT
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 10:42 AM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Maxwell's Equations.
> 
> Sorry you are not enjoying the thread James.
> 
> Seems like many of the email on this reflector has nothing to do with
> the K3. I'm an average user of the K3 (and an in progress K2 builder).
> Talking about the actual equations and the history of their development
> seems to me to be of general interest to many of the readers of this
> list given the other responses.
> 
> 73, tom n4zpt
> 
> On 3/10/2011 10:06 AM, JAMES ROGERS wrote:
> > Enough with the Maxwell Equations.... What in the world does this
represent
> to the average K3 user? .
> > On Mar 10, 2011, at 8:21 AM, Tom Azlin N4ZPT wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Kevin,
> >>
> >> What was asserted in "The Maxwellians" was that Maxwell died in the
> >> middle of a rewrite. It did sound like there was a controversy on his
> >> particle (or little eddies?) form of the equations for a field
approach.
> >>   Perhaps that new version would have dropped  the use of quaternions?
> >> Have not studied the equations since college, perhaps will go find the
> >> papers after I finish this history book. Thanks for the tip on locating
> >> the older forms.
> >>
> >> 73, tom n4zpt
> >>
> >> On 3/10/2011 1:46 AM, Kevin Rock wrote:
> >>> There was a group which disliked his use of quaternions so he was
forced
> >>> to rewrite the system into other systems.  Most of the work was
carried
> >>> out by others but for him to publish he needed peer review so he caved
> >>> into the larger group.  I am reading his original work from 1873 and
> >>> finding it very enlightening.  Even though I have studied the
> >>> Heaviside-Gibb's version of the Maxwell equations many times the
> >>> quaternions he used in the original paper were very hard to find.
Luckily
> >>> they are proliferating online these days.
> >>>      Kevin.  KD5ONS
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, 09 Mar 2011 15:31:18 -0800, David
Cutter<d.cut...@ntlworld.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I don't recall that from his biography, I'll have to read it again.
> >>>> Interesting.
> >>>>
> >>>> David
> >>>> G3UNA
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi Kevin,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Was not Maxwell that condensed the hard to understand original
theory.
> >>>>> Was some his disciples, aka "The Maxwellians," that finished the
theory
> >>>>> in the present form.  FitzGerald, Lodge, and Heavyside plus others.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Am just now reading "The Maxwellians" that has this story.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 73, tom n4zpt
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 3/6/2011 5:37 PM, Kevin Rock wrote:
> >>>>>> I have always wondered how he condensed the original twenty
equations
> >>>>>> in
> >>>>>> twenty unknowns down to just four of them.  The quaternions he used
> >>>>>> initially were out a favor with the physics community of the day so
he
> >>>>>> needed to get them into vector form.  Heaviside did a good job but
how
> >>>>>> do
> >>>>>> you characterize a system with twenty unknowns in four equations?
What
> >>>>>> has been lost in the translation?
> >>>>>>       Kevin.  KD5ONS
> >>
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