I for one have been enjoying the thread. Gary W2CS
> -----Original Message----- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft- > boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Tom Azlin N4ZPT > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 10:42 AM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Maxwell's Equations. > > Sorry you are not enjoying the thread James. > > Seems like many of the email on this reflector has nothing to do with > the K3. I'm an average user of the K3 (and an in progress K2 builder). > Talking about the actual equations and the history of their development > seems to me to be of general interest to many of the readers of this > list given the other responses. > > 73, tom n4zpt > > On 3/10/2011 10:06 AM, JAMES ROGERS wrote: > > Enough with the Maxwell Equations.... What in the world does this represent > to the average K3 user? . > > On Mar 10, 2011, at 8:21 AM, Tom Azlin N4ZPT wrote: > > > >> Hi Kevin, > >> > >> What was asserted in "The Maxwellians" was that Maxwell died in the > >> middle of a rewrite. It did sound like there was a controversy on his > >> particle (or little eddies?) form of the equations for a field approach. > >> Perhaps that new version would have dropped the use of quaternions? > >> Have not studied the equations since college, perhaps will go find the > >> papers after I finish this history book. Thanks for the tip on locating > >> the older forms. > >> > >> 73, tom n4zpt > >> > >> On 3/10/2011 1:46 AM, Kevin Rock wrote: > >>> There was a group which disliked his use of quaternions so he was forced > >>> to rewrite the system into other systems. Most of the work was carried > >>> out by others but for him to publish he needed peer review so he caved > >>> into the larger group. I am reading his original work from 1873 and > >>> finding it very enlightening. Even though I have studied the > >>> Heaviside-Gibb's version of the Maxwell equations many times the > >>> quaternions he used in the original paper were very hard to find. Luckily > >>> they are proliferating online these days. > >>> Kevin. KD5ONS > >>> > >>> > >>> On Wed, 09 Mar 2011 15:31:18 -0800, David Cutter<d.cut...@ntlworld.com> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> I don't recall that from his biography, I'll have to read it again. > >>>> Interesting. > >>>> > >>>> David > >>>> G3UNA > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Hi Kevin, > >>>>> > >>>>> Was not Maxwell that condensed the hard to understand original theory. > >>>>> Was some his disciples, aka "The Maxwellians," that finished the theory > >>>>> in the present form. FitzGerald, Lodge, and Heavyside plus others. > >>>>> > >>>>> Am just now reading "The Maxwellians" that has this story. > >>>>> > >>>>> 73, tom n4zpt > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On 3/6/2011 5:37 PM, Kevin Rock wrote: > >>>>>> I have always wondered how he condensed the original twenty equations > >>>>>> in > >>>>>> twenty unknowns down to just four of them. The quaternions he used > >>>>>> initially were out a favor with the physics community of the day so he > >>>>>> needed to get them into vector form. Heaviside did a good job but how > >>>>>> do > >>>>>> you characterize a system with twenty unknowns in four equations? What > >>>>>> has been lost in the translation? > >>>>>> Kevin. KD5ONS > >> > >> ______________________________________________________________ > >> Elecraft mailing list > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >> > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > > JIM ROGERS, W4ATK > > w4...@bellsouth.net > > http://web.me.com/jimrogers_w4atk > > K3/100 P3 > > K2/10 > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html