Umm, Bob: BOTH VFO's *are* in DIGITAL D/PSK31. The radio still wont do split in PSK31 mode.
Methinks its in the intrnal PSK31 Decoder DSP functionality, as Joe W4TV mentions. I bet you used to be an Icom user. :) -lu-w4lt- K3 #3192 ----- Original Message Follows ----- From: [email protected] To: "Gary Gregory" <[email protected]> Cc: "Kos" <[email protected]>, [email protected], [email protected] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: How to set Split in PSK31 Data mode Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 17:49:42 -0400 >At the risk of beating the same old expired equine, this is >because the radio's SPLIT function is disabled unless you >already have the other VFO and mode set in a way that >allows you to go SPLIT. This is a bad thing and a flaw in >the K3's operational logic. > >I have pointed out that this is a flaw previously, and >yours is just another example that proves the point. > >The way it should work is that when you PRESS and HOLD >SPLIT, > >***AND *ONLY IF* both VFO's are NOT on the same band and >mode*** > >the radio should do a VFOA->VFOB and then enable SPLIT. >Otherwise, if both VFOs are already on the same band and >mode, it should only enable SPLIT without first making the >VFOs equal. > >The error message that it won't allow SPLIT when the VFO >and mode is different serves no useful purpose and is a >waste of time. Talk about ergonomic overhead! > >73, > >Bob W5OV > > > >> LU, >> >> Aaaah....now the light bulb has been energised...Grin >> >> Guess I better go listen around some more and yes I see >>the reason now. >> 73's >> Gary - slow learner >> >> On 12 May 2011 02:03, Kos <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Joe, W4TV may have hit on the answer - both VFOs muct be >>> in DATA A mode; I'll have to wait to get home to check >>> this out. This of course wouldn't allow cross-mode >>> operation, though I don't see that happening with these >>>particular modes. >>> I've seen two DX stations on PSK in the last two weeks >>> using split mode - >>> the latest was an A4 on PSK-63 this past weekend >>> advertising he was listening 1-2 UP. He had a rather >>> robust pileup going.... I can see the usefullness of >>>this for DXpeditions that would choose to operate on PSK. >>> Kos, N4NIA >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* Lu Romero <[email protected]> >>> *To:* Gary Gregory <[email protected]>; S Kosmetatos >>> <[email protected] >>> > >>> >>> *Cc:* [email protected]; [email protected] >>> *Sent:* Wed, May 11, 2011 11:30:16 AM >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [Elecraft] K3: How to set Split in PSK31 >>>Data mode >>> I dont know either, Gary... Usually, when I operate >>> PSK31, I use the computer, and since I dont use that >>> mode too often either, I have never run into the need to >>>run split. >>> But it is a valid question... Why cant you set split in >>> Digital mode PSK on the radio, yet you can set it for >>> RTTY and AFSK... >>> >>> Seems to me it should make no difference to the radio. >>> Maybe it has something to do with the firmware decoder >>> for PSK31. >>> >>> -lu-w4lt- >>> K3 # 3192 >>> >>> ----- Original Message Follows ----- >>> From: Gary Gregory <[email protected]> >>> To: S Kosmetatos <[email protected]> >>> Cc: [email protected], [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: How to set Split in PSK31 >>> Data mode >>> Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 14:08:16 +1000 >>> >>> >I am puzzled as to why split would be used in PSK-31??? >>> >Given the mode it is, the band width used etc, >>> >etc...... >>> >I have not come across stations operating split on >>> >PSK-31 but then that is most likely my fault as I don't >>> >use that mode very often nowadays...:-) >>> > >>> >73's >>> >Gary >>> > >>> >On 11 May 2011 12:36, S Kosmetatos <[email protected]> >>> >wrote: >>> > >>> >> Hey guys, >>> >> >>> >> I was glad to see Luis' question on this as I ran >>> >> into this issue as well using PSK over the weekend, >>> >> and though HRD has a split mode, it wasn't as >>> >> intuitive or as handy as just being able to invoke a >>> >>split mode using the VFOs. >>> >> Is this working as designed for this particular data >>> >> mode , or am I too missing something in the >>> >>configuration? >>> >> Thanks, >>> >> >>> >> Kos, N4NIA >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -----Original Message----- >>> >> From: [email protected] >>> >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >>> >> Of Luis V. Romero Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 12:20 PM >>> >> To: [email protected] >>> >> Subject: [Elecraft] K3: How to set Split in PSK31 >>> >>Data mode >>> >> Hi all: >>> >> >>> >> A local friend brought this to my attention. >>> >> >>> >> Seems he is trying to set Split on PSK31 using the >>> >> radio built in PSK31 keyer/decoder and terminal via >>> >> RS232. When he tries to set Split, the radio >>> >> tells him "SPL N/A". >>> >> >>> >> I tried this, and I can set Split to function >>> >> normally in RTTY, both AFSK and FSK, but I get the >>> >> same indication when I try to set a Split using PSK >>> >> 31. Im not a digital mode person, but I do >>> >understand that you can do this sort of thing using a >>> >> computer decoder. My friend prefers not to use a >>> >> computer, and really enjoys the internal PSK >>> >>transmit/receive feature using the CW paddkes. >>> >> He tells me the manual does not explain the issue. >>> >>He's right! >>> >> He does not have a second receiver. I do, and can >>> >> work around the issue this way. I can also work >>> >> around the issue by using XIT, but it is cumbersome. >>> >> >>> >> Is this a firmware bug or is this normal? What's the >>> >> secret to setting split in PSK31? >>> >> >>> >> Thanks for the input! >>> >> >>> >> -lu-w4lt- >>> >> K3 # 3192 >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>__________________________________________________________ >>> >> _ ___ Elecraft mailing list >>> >> Home: >>> >> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: >>> >>mailto:[email protected] >>> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> >> Please help support this email list: >>> >> http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ----- >>> >> No virus found in this message. >>> >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> >> Version: 10.0.1325 / Virus Database: 1500/3624 - >>> >>Release Date: 05/08/11 >>> >> >>> >>__________________________________________________________ >>> >> _ ___ Elecraft mailing list >>> >> Home: >>> >> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: >>> >>mailto:[email protected] >>> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> >> Please help support this email list: >>> >>http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >-- >>> > >>> >VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile >>> >Elecraft Equipment >>> >K3 #679, KPA-500 #018 >>> >Living the dream!!! >>> > >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile >> Elecraft Equipment >> K3 #679, KPA-500 #018 >> Living the dream!!! >> >___________________________________________________________ >> ___ Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: >>http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[email protected] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
