And you have found where a page break was inadvertently put in the wrong place. That caution about not securing the toroids belongs on the previous page. It will be moved.
Thanks Ron IIRC from numerous threads asking the same question over the past decade, there is concern that *some* compounds can alter the inductance enough to have a deleterious effect on performance. Since (literally) thousands of K2's are out there, bouncing around in vehicles and otherwise being used in the field without any reports of a toroid breaking loose, it has always been recommended to simply leave them standing on their leads. 73, Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron VE8RT Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 6:48 PM To: [email protected] Cc: Elecraft Subject: Re: [Elecraft] securing toroids in K2, why not? Thanks Don, I've received a few helpful responses already, which I appreciate. I could do without the RTV, except I like it at RFC14 because its jammed into a tight space, and as you mentioned, its a RF choke which wouldn't be critical. For a very long time conformal coating has been used in my field, avionics. Its great stuff to reduce board corrosion in damp environments, even if its just from condensation. That is if its applied carefully and the board and adjustable components and contacts are well masked. If it won't mess things up, when its finished I'd like to apply conformal to parts of the board, especially the underside of the board. Back to the RTV on RFC14, there is a very small dab of it on the bottom of the core, just to keep it upright. Anymore than a small dab would be a waste. OK, future cores I'll leave alone unless the manual says otherwise. And conformal coating parts of the board can wait until I look into this further. I have spare cores and wire, and an reasonably good LCR meter at work, I'll see what difference the coating makes in the value of toroidal coil. Ron On 2-Jul-11, at 7:29 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > Ron, > > I suggest that you indeed do that. Actually on RFC14 it will > likely make little difference because the exact inductance is not > critical, but once the RTV hardens, you will have a bear of a time > getting it off should it ever need replacement. Do not use any > fixatives on any more of the K2 toroids. Many compounds will alter > the inductance, and it is just not necessary. To emphasize that > point, I often refer to the K2 that I built for an OTR truck > driver. That K2 lived for years in the cab of his 18 wheeler, and > never suffered any toroid damage - the toroids were adequately > supported by their leads. > > More specifics, T5 (and sometimes, but not often, the inductors in > the LPF) may need "tweaking" by adjusting the turns spacing. The > use of any fixatives will prevent that, and require you to purchase > new cores and rewind the toroids. > > Build the K2 as specified in the manual, and you will have no > problems - if you add or subtract anything, it may not work correctly. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 7/2/2011 9:02 PM, R Thompson wrote: >> I just installed the first toroid, RFC14, in my K2 kit. After >> winding it, I sprayed it with conformal coating, and just before >> installing it I put a small dab of RTV3145 (non-corrosive) >> silicone seal >> on the end next to the PC board and then soldered it in place. >> >> So.... I turn the page in the manual and the very next thing >> in bold >> is "Do not use adhesives or fixatives of any king to secure >> toroids to >> the PC board. >> >> Would this also apply to conformal coating? Should I remove >> RFC14 >> and take the RTV off it? >> >> Ron VE8RT [email protected] Yellowknife, NT, Canada 62 26.765N 114 22.503W Grid Square DP22tk "Who are these that fly as a cloud, and as doves to their window?" Is 60:8 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[email protected] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[email protected] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
