Don - I found it very helpful to have a local look at my keying waveform on his 
IC7800 as I adjusted the PTT timing, to make sure the amp was not switching 
when RF was present. 
-Dave-
K9FN

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Don Wilhelm <w3...@embarqmail.com> wrote:

>Don,
>
>You should have the amp's keyin (or PTT) keyed with the K3 KEYOUT 
>signal.  If you have it that way, you are "doing it right"
>
>Not all amps are capable of QSK because they use big, clunky, open frame 
>relays that take a considerable amount of time to pull in and the 
>contacts stop bouncing.  It sounds like you have one of those.  Your 
>choice of semi-breakin helps on the trailing edge of your keying, but 
>you really need help on the leading edge of keying to keep your amp's 
>relay from "hot switching" - that is a condition where RF is present at 
>the relay contacts before the relay contacts have positively closed.
>
>You can upgrade the amp's relays to a use faster relays or add a QSK kit 
>to your amplifier, or you can set the K3 for semi-breakin (as you have 
>done), but consider that on the leading edge of your keying, RF may be 
>presented to the amplifier before the relay contacts have stopped 
>bouncing - the K3 allows you delay the onset of RF to compensate for 
>that condition.  See the TX DLY menu setting on page 61 of the manual.
>
>73,
>Don W3FPR
>
>On 3/17/2012 7:49 AM, gold...@charter.net wrote:
>> I am attempting to slowly learn to work with CW but at first it is with
>> a computer program but I am not sure if that is relevant.
>>
>> I understand the reason for break in as it allows for RX listening
>> between your TX in case someone it trying to contact your.
>>
>> The issue is that when using VOX and with semi or full breakin when
>> using my amp the relays in the amp are clicking and clacking like crazy
>> which to me seems very abusive to the amp.    My solution has been to go
>> to semi break in and then set a long delay time so the amp and K3 stay
>> keyed.
>>
>> The amp is an SGC powercube and I do have it wired to the K3 so it gets
>> a PTT signal.
>>
>> Am I doing the right thing with the delay or are there other ways to
>> stop the amp from going nuts or is this just the nature of the beast.
>>
>>
>> ~73
>> Don
>> KD8NNU
>>
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