Computers quiet?   Obviously have not heard mine.  I have tried to get
after-market fans that were advertised as "quiet", but no luck.  Even some
that others swore were much quieter.  Apparently that which actually makes
a fan quiet is not part of quality control.  I've seen two fans of the same
model number that simply don't look the same.   Go figure.

I've given up.  Until I can go into a store and somehow listen to the exact
one I'm buying, I don't believe any of the advertising.

73, Guy.

On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 1:39 PM, rodolfo <rodo...@tin.it> wrote:

> I put a big fan (140x140mm) on top louvers for cooling, air injected into
> it, and temperature drops, sin is not available a quiet fan (like
> computers)
> ... maybe in the future ...
> rodolfo IK4VFD
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <donehrl...@q.com>
> To: <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 8:11 PM
> Subject: [Elecraft] KPA 500 Fan Noise and cooling performance
>
>
> >
> >  On 6/18/2012 4:42 AM, David Robertson wrote:  ( ... a long message I
> > won't include here where he improved amplifier cooling by tightening
> > heatsink/right panel screws and used heatsink compound.)
> >
> >
> > I operate my KPA500 with the fan speed set to #1 continuously which
> > delays the increase in the increase in fan speed once the amplifier
> > starts putting out power.  My amplifier did not exceed 58 deg C after 10
> > minutes at 500 watts carrier output into a dummy load and it stabilized
> > at about 60 degrees in a 25 degree C room.  My right panel to heatsink
> > screws (the ones under the handle) were all tight and that explains why
> > my experience was better than was Dave's originally before he tightened
> > his heatsink screws and added heatsink compound.  I then added heatsink
> > compound to the mating surface between my heatsink and the right side
> > panel.  There was no difference in cooling performance at all.  I just
> > wanted to know .. and now I do .. and so do you.
> >
> > The KPA500 fan is as quiet as any muffin fan ought to be but it was
> > still annoying to me.  That is not an amplifier fault .. it is just that
> > I have good hearing and I prefer a *very quiet shack.  For those who may
> > be like me in that regard here is how I reduced the normal fan noise of
> > my amplifier.  In my amplifier much of the fan noise was actually coming
> > from the sheet metal of the amplifier structure which was being excited
> > by the vibration of the fan which is rigidly attached to the amplifier
> > structure so that fan vibration was communicated to the structure which
> > then resonated and amplified the fan noise.  When I removed the fan and
> > held it loosely in my hand while it was running I could feel the light
> > high frequency 'buzz' produced by the rotating magnetic field of the fan
> > and also, crucially, the lower frequency throb caused by a slight weight
> > imbalance in the rotor. I used a small piece of sticky pad (normally
> > used to mount components to a chassis, etc) and placed this very small
> > weight at various points on the rotor blades until, by trial and error,
> > found the 'sweet' spot which resulted in greatly reduced throb.  That
> > reduced fan noise considerably.
> >
> > Then, to reduce transmission of fan vibration to the amplifier structure
> > even further, I mounted the fan loosely to the back of the amplifier
> > using soft quarter-inch cushions between the fan and the amplifier.  I
> > used light wire to do the actual attachment instead of the long screws
> > that are standard.  The overall effect is considerably less fan noise
> > and I am very happy about that.  The fan mounting is fragile and not to
> > be recommended if the amplifier is to be moved very much but in my
> > installation it is just fine.  By the way, I carefully compared cooling
> > performance before and after the fan mounting modification and found no
> > difference at all.  I also noticed during my testing that the direction
> > of airflow makes no difference.
> >
> > Don K7FJ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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