Matt & Brian, thanks for the suggestions. This KUSB is the latest type,
I believe with the  FTDI chip set.. The old one I had was a Prolific
chip set - but not a KUSB.
I'll look up the HS19.
73
John

On 13/12/2012 18:10, Brian Moran wrote:
> You may try a different K-USB. I have a K-USB that radiated terrible
> noise on 160m. A different one, quiet.
> -Brian N9ADG
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Matthew Zilmer <mzil...@magellangps.com>
> *To:* john petters <tjp...@traditional-jazz.com>;
> "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:53 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Noise Query - K3
> 
> USB uses differential signaling.  Your problem may not be conductive
> noise, but instead it could be radiated directly from the adapter, where
> the ferrite won't help.
> 
> KeySpan makes a USB - serial adapter that is pretty much noise-free. 
> Its model  is HS19, I think.
> 
> Matt Zilmer
> Consultant - Product Management Dept.
> Magellan Navigation / MiTAC Digital Corp.
> Tel: (909) 394-6052
> Cell: (909) 730-6552
> In status quo voluntas non sufficit
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> <mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net>] On Behalf Of john petters
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:25 AM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net <mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Elecraft] KUSB Noise Query - K3
> 
> Hi Folks,
> I posted a query about K3 Serial ports a few months back - we could not
> get the K3 to work properly with the RS232 connection. It turned out to
> be a fault with the sound card, which took out the serial connections.
> When I first built the K3, I bought a cheap Prolific USB converter,
> which radiates awful noise over the spectrum. I decided to bite the
> bullet and buy the proper lead, which arrived today.
> 
> Using my Toshiba laptop, on battery power, I get a couple of s points of
> noise on 10M with the KUSB connected and HRD fired up. This is using my
> 2 element DJ4VM quad, which is fed with 300 ohm twin into the shack,
> i.e. near the laptop.
> 
> On LF, I can hear the pulsing information, in sympathy with the flashing
> LEDs on the KUSB on 160M at quite a high level. I can even detect this
> when fed into a Marconi dummy load. The K3 and the tuning units are
> bonder to an RF earth - a copper stake about 8 feet away from the K3.
> 
> I have tried choking the USB lead at the laptop end, which does reduce
> the noise to a degree.
> 
> The question I have is - am I being unrealistic in expecting zero noise
> to be radiated from these adaptors?
> Does anyone else have this problem - or has anyone looked for it?
> 
> It is not very noticeable on CW or SSB. To hear it best, listen in the
> AM mode with the AGC off. On SSB it sounds like band noise.
> 
> Is this a problem JUST with USB adaptors or can I expect silence when
> connecting a computer via RS232 to RS232.
> 
> If not we are sacrificing a low noise floor for the convenience of
> computer control.
> 
> Any views appreciated,
> 
> 73
> 
> 
> 
> 
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