I disagree. If a person is calling on the dx stations frequency no one should say UP. I listened to one guy yesterday from Europe and he nominated himself to be the DX COP for 2 hours. This guys job was to tell others UP. For Two Entire Hours! He was not even calling the K7C, just telling others UP and sometimes how much UP. One person asked if the K7C was listening UP or DOWN and this moron started a conversation with him. These hams today do not know how to listen and turn the vfo knob. Ham radio is not that difficult. We do not need people like this. It is bad enough when a person who makes the ole vfo mistake but to listen to the dx cops who consistantly xmit on the dx frequency need to really observe the harm they actually cause. I for one had made that mistake by using the wrong vfo but to have 4 people telling me up makes it much worse.

73s
john-n3drk


----- Original Message ----- From: "J F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Elecraft Discussion List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 7:59 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] K7C


Something to keep in mind, the MAJORITY of major
DXpeditions work split 1 to 5 kHz up. If K7C has made
any mistakes, it's probably working simplex a few
times when things were quiet.
Folks in Az to the Pacific coast generally will hear
them sooner and louder, but it does not mean that they
are having reciprocal propagation. They may be swamped
by JAs and hardly hearing a W7 with 5 elements and
2KW.
The worst problems are folks calling others lids OTA
on top of the DX. What's the point of that? UP
sometimes helps, even veterans (who, like me from time
to time, have hit RIT instead of XIT or switched out
the 2nd VFO). Stuff happens... Patience pays!
Don't give up, look for better opportunities...
73,
Julius
n2wn
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