if we're going back that far, is anyone out there still running CP/M or Phimon, 
or using switches to toggle in machine code one byte at a time?  Or worrying 
about the behavior of thunks in Algol and side effects of call by name, or 
perhaps whether all of the filaments in the tubes in the 64-bit accumulator are 
ok?  

:D    Grant NQ5T


On May 28, 2013, at 5:05 PM, "Bill Blomgren" <[email protected]> wrote:

> In the commercial world, 98 went by the wayside back when MS dropped support 
> for it... which was somewhere in the 2000's as I remember.  (I never 
> supported 98.. I was only in the server world there.)
> 
> Considering the age of the computers that -can- run 98 these days, they are 
> .. well... OLD.  I have 1 down in Charlotte that I didn't bump to XP only 
> because I had a film scanner from Polaroid (4000 pixels per inch) that did an 
> incredible job.. but had software that ONLY ran on 98.  4 weeks after I 
> bought that puppy ($1500 then) - Polaroid went belly up.  So there have been 
> NO updates for the drivers and guts of the scanning software.  <sigh>
> 
> But I don't know anyone still running 98 or ME at this point.  None.  LOTS of 
> people on Linux, Mac, and Windows XP and 7.  A few running Vista.. I don't 
> know of anyone running 8 at this point. (Uptake has been 1/2 the dismal Vista 
> uptake, which tells you something...)
> 
> Moving up to the next generation of Compiler would be a good thing in my 
> eyes, but a lot of software doesn't need 64 bit versions.. (I suspect your 
> utilities probably are some of those...) - the WOW layer handles thunking 
> nicely so that 32 bit applications will run happily on 64 bit OS's.. Compile 
> for 32 bit in all cases because the last version that had 16 bit support was 
> XP as I remember.....
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick Dievendorff" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 5:23 PM
> Subject: [Elecraft] How many Windows users are using Windows 98 SE?
> 
> 
>> I've been building the various Elecraft utilities (K3 Utility, KX3 Utility,
>> P3 Utility, KPA Utility, XG3 Utility, K144XV Utility and XG3 Utility) with a
>> 2005-era compiler, because that's the most recent version of the Microsoft
>> Visual Studio C++ compiler that generates executables that will run on
>> Windows 98 SE.
>> 
>> 
>> I'd like to move to a more modern compiler, but the resulting code they
>> generate will run only on Windows XP and later.  That is, Windows XP,
>> Windows Vista, Windows 7, and Windows 8.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Would you be inconvenienced by this change?  I'm hoping there aren't many.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Please let me know if you need the Windows versions of the Elecraft
>> Utilities to run on Windows OS prior to Windows XP, and what OS you have.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks & 73 de Dick, K6KR
>> 
>> 
>> 
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