Don Wilhelm wrote:

One should not assume that any particular connector implies any kind of
standard.  As an example, the 25 pin DB25 connector is used both for a real
RS232 serial port and on most PCs  as a printer port.

And to make matters worse, the real RS-232 standard calls for DB-25P (the "plug" or "male" connector) on cables and DB-25S ("female"/"socket") on equipment, on the plausible theory that if a pin is broken it's easier to repair/replace a cable than a device.

When IBM belatedly decided to design a serial port card on the first PCs, the engineers discovered that using DB25-Ss on PC cards was already preempted by the printer port card people, who had already discovered that the parallel port standard "Centroncis" connector was too wide to fit on a standard PC card. Unfortunately they chose to use the -S connector on the card. Since it was felt that a typical PC user couldn't be relied upon to not plug their modem cable into their printer port if the connectrors would fit, DB-25P was adopted as the connector on serial port cards for PCs.

So much for "standards".

There *is* a commonly used convention for DB-9 pinouts for serial ports on PCs...which imitates the serial card (pardon me, "asynchronous communications adapter card") selection of the male connector. But its more a convention than a standard. Certainly "the plug fits so it must work" was never a safe assumption even with the original RS-232, because there were two ends to the conversation: DCE (read "modem") and DTE (read "terminal")...leading to the widespread need for "break-out boxes", "modem eliminators" and "gender changers".

Guess which end the IBM card implemented?

Of course Don (who worked for IBM at that time) knows this little bit of history, but I figure some of you young-uns might not...

73 de Maggie K3XS, who will be presenting her K2 talk at the R.F.Hill club in Perkasie next month


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