Thanks for the info Don.

I just ordered the PA kit from Aptos...

73 de John K2ZA

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On Aug 10, 2013, at 0:04, Don Wilhelm <[email protected]> wrote:

> John,
> 
> What is the DC voltage at the base of Q7/Q8 during a TUNE?  If it is in 
> excess of 0.64 volts, then Q11 and Q13 as well as Q7 and Q8 are toast.  Order 
> and install the K2PAKIT which includes all those parts.  Q7 and Q8 are 
> connected in push-pull output, so a failure of one will reflect on the other.
> 
> I don't know how that would change the behavior of the KIO2, so you may have 
> multiple problems in your K2.
> 
> If you want to do a test, remove the KAT2 and try working into a 50 ohm dummy 
> load.  If you then have good power output, the PA transistors are OK and the 
> problem lies with the KAT2,
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> On 8/9/2013 11:39 PM, John Zaruba Jr wrote:
>> I was using my new to me K2/10 (S/N 50xx) which has been working flawlessly 
>> for the last 2 months when out of the blue I started getting a P LO message 
>> from the KAT2. I checked the power out with an external meter and it was 
>> about .4 watts in general agreement with the K2 power display. No snap, 
>> crackle, or other dramatics, just loss of power. Coincident with the output 
>> power failure, the KIO2 stopped working, neither receiving or sending data. 
>> Coincidence does not imply causality, so I'm going to treat this as a 
>> separate issue.
>> 
>> I started signal tracing per the manual with a DSO scope (Tek TDS-210) and 
>> the RMS voltages I read on the scope were nothing like the voltage charts, 
>> so I was just looking at voltage gains from the various stages. I removed 
>> the KSB2 and installed the cap and 2 jumpers to eliminate that module, with 
>> no symptom change.
>> 
>> The one anomaly I think I've found occurred with Q7 & Q8, the voltage at 
>> each device's base lead was 3.2 VRMS (as measured by the cyclic RMS setting 
>> on the scope), but the collector voltages were around 500 mVRMS. Just to 
>> clarify my thinking, I would expect the collector voltage to be 
>> significantly higher than the base voltage.
>> 
>> As an additional question, if I have had a final amplifier failure, what 
>> might cause both devices to fail, rather than one or the other? Hopefully I 
>> can receive some wisdom from the list before I call the factory on Monday to 
>> order parts (to make sure I get the correct ones) I'm also thinking I should 
>> order new thermal pads and shoulder washers, if new finals are indeed 
>> required.
> 
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