hit the sub button until you can un-link the two vfo's jeff N4JDU
Sent from my iPad > On Jan 14, 2014, at 6:20 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > Send Elecraft mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Elecraft digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: P3 macro problem (Ake SA6BNV) > 2. Re: ECN spreadsheet data (Oliver Johns) > 3. KX3 & BOSE speakers... (bill conkling) > 4. OT: HAL ST-8000A info (Jim Sheldon) > 5. KX3 transverter offset (Jim Klitzing) > 6. vfos (Tom Fitzpatrick) > 7. Re: vfos (Don Wilhelm) > 8. Re: vfos (Doug Joyce) > 9. Re: vfos (Joe Subich, W4TV) > 10. Re: KXPA100 Mobile Operations -- Power Output (Edward R Cole) > 11. Connecting a IC PW-1 to Ke (Randy) > 12. Re: KXPA100 Mobile Operations (Bill Frantz) > 13. KX3 transverter offset (Jim Klitzing) > 14. Re: KX3 transverter offset (Bruce Beford) > 15. Re: Connecting a IC PW-1 to Ke (Joe Subich, W4TV) > 16. Re: KXPA100 Mobile Operations -- Power Output (Matt Zilmer) > 17. KX3 - VOX Delay with CW in SSB mode ([email protected]) > 18. Please confirm this before I blow something up (Lee Buller) > 19. Re: Please confirm this before I blow something up (Matt Zilmer) > 20. Re: Please confirm this before I blow something up (Eric Buggee) > 21. Re: Please confirm this before I blow something up (Jim Brown) > 22. Re: Portable antnennas (Arno Dienhart) > 23. Re: KX3 2-meter module progress report (N2YTF) > 24. Obsolete trimmer capacitors (Wayne Burdick) > 25. Re: Obsolete trimmer capacitors (Wayne Burdick) > 26. Re: Portable antnennas (Gary Hinson) > 27. Re: Portable antnennas (Fred Jensen) > 28. 2014 Visalia Top Band Dinner ([email protected]) > 29. 2014 Visalia Top Band Dinner ([email protected]) > 30. KPA500 on remote (Ron Leech) > 31. UPDATE: 2014 Visalia Top Band Dinner ([email protected]) > 32. [QRO] KXPA100-AT ~ Can antenna 2 be disabled? (mike) > 33. Re: Obsolete trimmer capacitors (Gerald Manthey) > 34. Re: UPDATE: 2014 Visalia Top Band Dinner > (Peter Eijlander (PA0PJE)) > 35. Requirements for keying a KXPA100 (John Marvin) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 09:35:48 -0800 (PST) > From: Ake SA6BNV <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 macro problem > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Yeah, but I don't want an external display or keyboard... > It appears to be a relatively simple thing to add the option to the P3 > natively. > Or, as suggested, adding the possibility to send commands from the K3 on the > KAT interface. > // Ake > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3-macro-problem-tp7574907p7582826.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 09:47:12 -0800 > From: Oliver Johns <[email protected]> > To: kevinr <[email protected]> > Cc: "[email protected] Elecraft List" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ECN spreadsheet data > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi Kevin, > > Sorry to hear of the crash. The document files in most of these programs > like Star Office are really zip files. If you change the suffix to .zip and > then open them, you can usually extract a set of other files. These are > often XML or such and can be parsed for content. > > --Oliver > W6ODJ > > >> On 12 Jan. 2014, at 15:30 PM, [email protected] wrote: >> >> I have the ECN data from before the hard drive crash but cannot read it. >> I have tried LibreOffice and OpenOffice. Neither application wants to >> open an .sdc file created with StarOffice. Does anyone have a clue for me >> as to how I can open ECN.sdc so I can transfer it to one of these more >> modern applications? >> 73, >> Kevin. KD5ONS >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 13:27:45 -0500 > From: bill conkling <[email protected]> > To: [email protected], elecraft <[email protected]> > Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 & BOSE speakers... > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > What's the opinion on BOSE COMPANION 2 SERIES III MULTIMEDIA Speakers for use > with K3 or KX3? > > Just ordered from Amazon... > > ...bill nr4c > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 12:53:46 -0600 > From: Jim Sheldon <[email protected]> > To: Elecraft Mailing List <[email protected]> > Subject: [Elecraft] OT: HAL ST-8000A info > Message-ID: <2014113125346.180799@HamRadio-PC> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Thanks to all that offered suggestions and possible solutions. Problems have > been solved by my wonderful wife authorizing the purchase of HAL's program > DS-RTTY-Win which was designed for the 8000 series T/U's as well as just > about any other T/U as well. This will enable me to run it with the K3, KX3 > or any other radio for that matter. > > > Jim - W0EB > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 12:14:20 -0800 > From: Jim Klitzing <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 transverter offset > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 12:50:15 -0800 (PST) > From: Tom Fitzpatrick <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: [Elecraft] vfos > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > ???? I've done something weird with the K-3 vfos.? On 15mtrs A and B are > tracking together.? B can be adjusted, but when A is turned, B moves too.? > How do I get them independent again? > > ? > Tom, K4IE > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 16:06:08 -0500 > From: Don Wilhelm <[email protected]> > To: Tom Fitzpatrick <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] vfos > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Tom, > > You have the VFOs linked on 15 meters - it is a per band setting. > Hold the SUB button to link/unlink the VFOs. > Remember that a long hold (more than 2 seconds) will enter diversity mode. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > >> On 1/13/2014 3:50 PM, Tom Fitzpatrick wrote: >> I've done something weird with the K-3 vfos. On 15mtrs A and B are >> tracking together. B can be adjusted, but when A is turned, B moves too. >> How do I get them independent again? > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 16:09:12 -0500 > From: Doug Joyce <[email protected]> > To: Tom Fitzpatrick <[email protected]> > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] vfos > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Hii Tom: You just need to ?unlink? them by Holding the ?Sub? button. I > believe this is a band dependent setting. > > 73, Doug VE3MV >> On 2014-Jan-13, at 3:50 PM, Tom Fitzpatrick <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I've done something weird with the K-3 vfos. On 15mtrs A and B are >> tracking together. B can be adjusted, but when A is turned, B moves too. >> How do I get them independent again? >> >> >> Tom, K4IE >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 16:12:51 -0500 > From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] vfos > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > Hold the [SUB] button until you see "UNLINK" in the VFO B > display. > > 73, > > ... Joe, W4TV > > >> On 1/13/2014 3:50 PM, Tom Fitzpatrick wrote: >> I've done something weird with the K-3 vfos. On 15mtrs A and B are >> tracking together. B can be adjusted, but when A is turned, B moves too. >> How do I get them independent again? >> >> >> Tom, K4IE >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 12:17:49 -0900 > From: Edward R Cole <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KXPA100 Mobile Operations -- Power Output > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > I need to correct some of my last statements on this topic (thanks to > Dave AB9CA/4 for pointing them out). > > I apparently was thinking of other battery chemistry than lead-acid > batteries. A check with wikipedia reveals that full charge voltage, > open-ckt, is 2.1v per cell (12.6v for auto battery). Fully > discharged open-ckt voltage per cell is 1.95v (11.7v) and 1.75v > (10.5v) when loaded. > > Matt was seeing full RF output with 12.2v at the amp. > > But that was with his engine running (alternator charging) which > ought to deliver higher voltage to the amp (if cable losses are low - > something like 0.5v drop if wiring is 8-awg). Alternators run at > 14.2v in full charging. They have a voltage regulator that drops > this when battery reaches full charge (not sure what voltage that is > but seems I've seen >13v). > > I do not recall what gauge of dc wire was run to the 100w Motorola > VHF trunk-mount radios we used to install for police and fire, but > they held power pretty well with engine off (with fresh battery > charge). I am thinking the wires were 12ga awg and 17-foot long > before cutting to length in each install. > > The rest of my suggestions for testing and connections are still good. > > 73, Ed - KL7UW > http://www.kl7uw.com > "Kits made by KL7UW" > Dubus Mag business: > [email protected] > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 16:19:52 -0500 > From: Randy <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Elecraft] Connecting a IC PW-1 to Ke > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > I am thinking of connecting a PW-1 to my K3. I would like to the K3 to > send band data to the PW-1 and have the PW-1 following the K3 just as if > the K3 was a Icom transceiver. > > I am thinking of connecting the CI-V port on the back of my MicroHam > MKII to the K3. What I'm a little uncertain about is the ALC set up. > Is there any problem with this arrangement? > > Randy, AA8R > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 13:40:36 -0800 > From: Bill Frantz <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KXPA100 Mobile Operations > Message-ID: > <r422Ps-1075i-B5A4D66F3FE04BB6BDEB9650BC211B6A@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > The 706 that was displaced by when my K3 arrived ended up in our > 1999 4Runner with a Little Tarheel screwdriver antenna. The > combination works reasonably well. I have the antenna mounted > high on the rear lift gate with due attention to bonding between > the antenna, the lift gate, and the car body. Some of the > highlights are a QSO with Denmark on 15M while my wife drove on > I40 east of Barstow, and using the antenna with the K3 for 80M > during the California QSO party (CQP). > > I tune the antenna with a combination of a scale I made on the > side of the coil cover which shows approximately where the coil > should be for each band and the SWR meter in the radio. Note > that 80/75M covers 2 centimeters. If I am operating mobile, > tuning the antenna for maximum noise and then using the SWR > meter on the radio works reasonably well. > > At higher frequencies, the antenna works quite well. On the > lower frequencies, the bandwidth is quite narrow and frequent > tuning is a must. During CQP, I was operating search and pounce > tuning up and down the 75M band. With this pattern, I always > knew the direction to move the antenna so when I answered a CQ > with "Whisky Six Zulu Zulu Zulu", I could also retune the antenna. > > As for efficiency, I managed to contact 12 stations, all in > California on 75M during CQP using the K3/10 at 12 watts. Every > one of them said, "You're down in the noise, but we'll make it > work." Thanks to all of them for making the effort. > > As a side note, I now have some tuned radials for 40M and 80M I > can use in portable operations. I also have a mast extension I > haven't played with very much. The real high point is I had my > wife logging during CQP. Having seen how things went on 80M, she > got me a KPA3 100 watt module for Christmas. > > Cheers - Bill, AE6JV > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bill Frantz |The nice thing about standards| Periwinkle > (408)356-8506 |is there are so many to choose| 16345 > Englewood Ave > www.pwpconsult.com |from. - Andrew Tanenbaum | Los Gatos, > CA 95032 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 13:45:17 -0800 > From: Jim Klitzing <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 transverter offset > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Let's try this post again, looks like the text was truncated... > Can't seem to get the XVn OFS function to work...anyone else out there > have it working, or is this an unimplemented feature? > > Thanks, Jim > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 16:55:23 -0500 > From: "Bruce Beford" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 transverter offset > Message-ID: <0567E27C2E864EEBB987EA57D61B7ED6@HPE250f> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Not yet implemented. -Bruce, N1RX > >> Let's try this post again, looks like the text was truncated... >> Can't seem to get the XVn OFS function to work...anyone else out there >> have it working, or is this an unimplemented feature? > >> Thanks, Jim > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 15 > Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 17:14:06 -0500 > From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Connecting a IC PW-1 to Ke > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > Randy, > > Connection diagram for any transceiver with MK II and PW-1 is available > from the application note "Using the PW-1 safely (and with non-Icom > transceivers) <http://microham-usa.com/store/cmspage.php?page_id=27> > on the support page at www.microHAM-USA.com/support.html. > > You will probably want to connect ALC from the PW-1 to K3 but set > it slightly above normal drive levels as the PW-1 uses ALC to protect > itself in event of problems. > > 73, > > ... Joe, W4TV > > >> On 1/13/2014 4:19 PM, Randy wrote: >> I am thinking of connecting a PW-1 to my K3. I would like to the K3 to >> send band data to the PW-1 and have the PW-1 following the K3 just as if >> the K3 was a Icom transceiver. >> >> I am thinking of connecting the CI-V port on the back of my MicroHam >> MKII to the K3. What I'm a little uncertain about is the ALC set up. Is >> there any problem with this arrangement? >> >> Randy, AA8R >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 16 > Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 14:27:06 -0800 > From: Matt Zilmer <[email protected]> > To: Edward R Cole <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KXPA100 Mobile Operations -- Power Output > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I was seeing 12.2V with 60W out on 20m with KX3/KXPA, but this was > measured at the relay enclosure (near the KXPA), and it had another > 10A or so as loads besides (2m rig at 75W). Didn't measure the > current, but it was probably around 30A total. This is with the > battery alone. > > I also saw full output (100W) with the KXPA and KX3 alone, with no > engine running. Voltage at the relay was 12.3-12.4V. > > With the engine running, no problem. > > The DVM has never been calibrated, that I know of. If it has, it's > been > 10 years. It might read low or high. > > I'm probably going to run a second Optima 55AH battery with its own > branch charging circuit, just for the KX3 and KXPA100. This is a > future project, not something I have the time or money for now. > > I'm using 8 AWG, and this is also what Moto used for Micors, Syntors, > etc., if 100W class transceivers. I used to run a 100W UHF Syntor, > but gave it up to get some trunk space back. > > 73, > matt W6NIA > > > >> On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 12:17:49 -0900, you wrote: >> >> I need to correct some of my last statements on this topic (thanks to >> Dave AB9CA/4 for pointing them out). >> >> I apparently was thinking of other battery chemistry than lead-acid >> batteries. A check with wikipedia reveals that full charge voltage, >> open-ckt, is 2.1v per cell (12.6v for auto battery). Fully >> discharged open-ckt voltage per cell is 1.95v (11.7v) and 1.75v >> (10.5v) when loaded. >> >> Matt was seeing full RF output with 12.2v at the amp. >> >> But that was with his engine running (alternator charging) which >> ought to deliver higher voltage to the amp (if cable losses are low - >> something like 0.5v drop if wiring is 8-awg). Alternators run at >> 14.2v in full charging. They have a voltage regulator that drops >> this when battery reaches full charge (not sure what voltage that is >> but seems I've seen >13v). >> >> I do not recall what gauge of dc wire was run to the 100w Motorola >> VHF trunk-mount radios we used to install for police and fire, but >> they held power pretty well with engine off (with fresh battery >> charge). I am thinking the wires were 12ga awg and 17-foot long >> before cutting to length in each install. >> >> The rest of my suggestions for testing and connections are still good. >> >> 73, Ed - KL7UW >> http://www.kl7uw.com >> "Kits made by KL7UW" >> Dubus Mag business: >> [email protected] >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 17 > Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 17:31:54 -0500 (EST) > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 - VOX Delay with CW in SSB mode > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > With the ARRL VHF contest coming up, I'm still waiting to hear if there has > been any progress in getting a delay in the PTT output, vs. full breakin > only, when using CW in SSB? > > When driving a (non-Elecraft) transverter, one needs some delay in the > circuit that keys the transverter. The delay time used in straight CW would > be > fine. > > > 73 - Jim K8MR > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 18 > Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 14:43:50 -0800 (PST) > From: Lee Buller <[email protected]> > To: Elecraft Reflector <[email protected]> > Subject: [Elecraft] Please confirm this before I blow something up > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > I got some CM500 headphones/mike combo from Xmas.? Yea me.? I love them? Very > comfortable. > > In the package....there was also a battery connector box thingy that powers > the mike.? I am assuming, although there is no documentation, that I could > plug the jack coming out of the "battery connector box thingy" to the K3 > through my Heil plug adapter.? The battery powers the mike but passes through > the audio.? > > I know that I could use the back of the radio....but I for reasons of my > own....I would like to use the front.? > > Am I thinking this is right?? > > Lee - K0WA > Feeling like a Novice > > > > ? > In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply. If you > don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it. If you can't > find any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense. > Is Common Sense divine? > > Common Sense is the image of the Creator expressing revealed truth in my > mind. -? John W. (Kansas) > > Never interfere with anything that isn't bothering you. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 19 > Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 14:56:17 -0800 > From: Matt Zilmer <[email protected]> > To: Lee Buller <[email protected]> > Cc: Elecraft Reflector <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Please confirm this before I blow something up > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi Lee, > > I did exactly what you're thinking about doing. Instead of using the > bias box as-is, I rewired the line side of it to use the 8 pin MIC > connector. It works fine this way. You can double-side tape the bias > box to the underside of a shelf or next to the radio. > > I have the Goldline and external speakers connected to the rear panel, > leaving the front panel the only convenient place for the CM500. This > arrangement works quite well. > > 73, > matt W6NIA > >> On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 14:43:50 -0800 (PST), you wrote: >> >> I got some CM500 headphones/mike combo from Xmas.? Yea me.? I love them? >> Very comfortable. >> >> In the package....there was also a battery connector box thingy that powers >> the mike.? I am assuming, although there is no documentation, that I could >> plug the jack coming out of the "battery connector box thingy" to the K3 >> through my Heil plug adapter.? The battery powers the mike but passes >> through the audio.? >> >> I know that I could use the back of the radio....but I for reasons of my >> own....I would like to use the front.? >> >> Am I thinking this is right?? >> >> Lee - K0WA >> Feeling like a Novice >> >> >> >> ? >> In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply. If you >> don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it. If you >> can't find any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common >> Sense. Is Common Sense divine? >> >> Common Sense is the image of the Creator expressing revealed truth in my >> mind. -? John W. (Kansas) >> >> Never interfere with anything that isn't bothering you. >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 20 > Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 10:13:44 +1100 > From: Eric Buggee <[email protected]> > To: Lee Buller <[email protected]>, Elecraft Reflector > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Please confirm this before I blow something up > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi Lee, > With the Yamaha CM500 headset just plug the mic & > headphone plugs direct into the respective Mic & headphone sockets on > the back panel of the K3. > Next step, using the menue options select electret mic option and select > phones only -or- phones plus speaker if you wish. > > All of this is in the K3 Handbook. > > 73 & good luck, > > Eric VK3AX. > > > >> On 1/14/2014 9:43 AM, Lee Buller wrote: >> I got some CM500 headphones/mike combo from Xmas. Yea me. I love them >> Very comfortable. >> >> In the package....there was also a battery connector box thingy that powers >> the mike. I am assuming, although there is no documentation, that I could >> plug the jack coming out of the "battery connector box thingy" to the K3 >> through my Heil plug adapter. The battery powers the mike but passes >> through the audio. >> >> I know that I could use the back of the radio....but I for reasons of my >> own....I would like to use the front. >> >> Am I thinking this is right? >> >> Lee - K0WA >> Feeling like a Novice >> >> >> >> >> In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply. If you >> don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it. If you >> can't find any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common >> Sense. Is Common Sense divine? >> >> Common Sense is the image of the Creator expressing revealed truth in my >> mind. - John W. (Kansas) >> >> Never interfere with anything that isn't bothering you. >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 21 > Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 15:31:01 -0800 > From: Jim Brown <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Please confirm this before I blow something up > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > >> On 1/13/2014 2:56 PM, Matt Zilmer wrote: >> I did exactly what you're thinking about doing. Instead of using the >> bias box as-is, I rewired the line side of it to use the 8 pin MIC >> connector. It works fine this way. > > Yes, it will work, but there's a far easier way. Simply make a cable > adapter with a 1/8-in female jack on one end and an 8-pin mic plug (I've > learned that it's called a Foster plug) on the other. Wire the tip of > the mic jack to the mic pin of the K3, wire the shell of the mic jack to > the mic return of the K3. Then go into the top level menu (short push), > select Mic Front Panel, tap "2" on the keypad to turn on bias. No > battery box needed. > > 73, Jim K9YC > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 22 > Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 16:51:32 -0700 > From: "Arno Dienhart" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Portable antnennas > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Thank you, Fred, for the specific comparison btw. BP and AL. A few months > ago I was at a point where I needed a portable for my outings in the park. > Those two commercial antennas were on the top of my list.and I ended up > building two wire antennas, a vertical ground plane and a ZS6BKW dipole, > both to be hoisted into my favorite tree there. Despite the tree now having > an installed haul line, which saves me half the setup time and more, it is > still a fight with the wires each time. > > > > So, when a used AL came up on Yahoo, I grabbed it and now, reading your > comparison, like it even more, having had the hunch that the BP will be a > bit more like my wires in the tree, as far as setup time is concerned. Of > course, an A/B/C/D comparison between the four would be better than > guessing, but I am making plenty of contacts with the AL. > > > > For an upcoming trip to Greece, where I will bring the KX3 and the AL, I > will also bring a ~60' EF with a matchbox to be able to cover 80m. It will > be a HB of course. Just got the matchbox parts in the mail today (EARC > design) and am still researching the wire (between the yellow from SOTAbeams > and the 532 from Wireman). > > > > That's the hardware. Running a small-scale "DXpedition" will be a whole > other subject for this green ham with not even 12 months under his belt. > > > > 73 de Arno K7RNO > > SKCC #11131, NAQCC #6870 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 23 > Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 16:20:39 -0800 (PST) > From: N2YTF <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 2-meter module progress report > Message-ID: > <CADt=rowe6zovxzfomwsaaiowzvfhgbyrjpoq2spark3phlr...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > You have highlighted one of the things I am getting at. I am looking for a > predicted performance comparison in general terms of both receive > (selectivity, sensitivity, etc..) and transmit (power out & how clean) on > 2m vs an FT-817. Do we know anything more about the TX output power---last > I read it was a max of 3 or 5 w? > > I am not particularly interested in wideband receive coverage but I am > assuming there will be some negative impact on the KX3's receive > performance due to its wideband receive. > > I know there was some mention on the list of tradeoffs due to the small > size of the 2m module, and I just want to get a feel for the KX3-2m's > mountain topping performance vs an FT-817. There are a wide variety of > operating noise levels on summits, everything from dead quiet to packed > with repeaters and other transmitters. Hams aren't the only ones who seek > out summits to operate from! Sometimes summits can be quite challenging 2m > environments even when they have excellent elevation over the surrounding > terrain because of deafening local transmitters. With the right rig 2m > operation from a summit is really a fantastic experience. > > 73, > Tom, N2YTF > > > > > On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Scott Manthe-2 [via Elecraft] < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> In my opinion, wide-band receiver coverage and receiver performance are >> often conflicting notions, so are you asking if the KX3-2m will have >> wider receive frequency coverage than the FT-817 or better receiver >> performance? >> >> 73, >> Scott, N9AA >> >> >>> On 1/12/14 6:54 PM, Tom Tumino wrote: >>> >>> Hi Wayne, >>> >>> Can you guess as to whether the KX3's 2m module will perform better or >>> worse than an FT-817 on 2m? >>> >>> What would a performance comparison between a KX3-2m and an FT-817 look >>> like on 2m? >>> >>> The 817 out of band 2m receive is very limited. >>> >>> 73, >>> Tom, N2YTF >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden >> email]<http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=7582822&i=0> >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion >> below: >> >> http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-2-meter-module-progress-report-tp7579798p7582822.html >> To unsubscribe from KX3 2-meter module progress report, click >> here<http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_code&node=7579798&code=dGhvbWFzdHVtaW5vQGdtYWlsLmNvbXw3NTc5Nzk4fC0xOTIyNTg1NTI3> >> . >> NAML<http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewer&id=instant_html%21nabble%3Aemail.naml&base=nabble.naml.namespaces.BasicNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NabbleNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NodeNamespace&breadcrumbs=notify_subscribers%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-instant_emails%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-send_instant_email%21nabble%3Aemail.naml> > > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-2-meter-module-progress-report-tp7579798p7582849.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 24 > Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 16:36:47 -0800 > From: Wayne Burdick <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected] Wilhelm" <[email protected]> > Cc: Paul Russell - Elecraft Purchasing <[email protected]>, Elecraft > Reflector <[email protected]>, W3FPR Wilhelm <[email protected]> > Subject: [Elecraft] Obsolete trimmer capacitors > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > Hi Don, > > Looks like 9-50 pF bottom-adjust trimmers are going out of style. See info > from Paul below on the part we normally use. > > Here are two alternatives, in stock at Mouser, that might work, though these > are also "NRND"/"EOL" according to documentation. Would you be interested in > testing samples of these on the KX1 and K60XV PCBs so we can buy EOL stock? > Paul could have samples sent directly to you. > > 81-TZ03P600N169B00 (10-60 pF) > 81-TZ03P450N169B00 (7-45 pF) > > Please let me know right away. I can line up someone else if necessary. It > would be great to have you try them since you work with these modules so > often. > > tnx > Wayne > > >> On Jan 13, 2014, at 3:34 PM, Paul Russell - Elecraft Purchasing >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi Wayne >> >> E540005, Mouser# Obsolete 659-GKG50016 ?..This is used on KX1,K60XV EAU >> x100 > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 25 > Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 16:41:17 -0800 > From: Wayne Burdick <[email protected]> > To: Elecraft Reflector <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Obsolete trimmer capacitors > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > Sorry for the bandwidth, guys. Slip of the email alias :) > > Now everyone gets an unexpected peak at the joys of finding substitutes for > obsolete parts, in this case for the KX1 and K60XV boards. > > Not to worry; we always find alternates or work-arounds. > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > >> On Jan 13, 2014, at 4:36 PM, Wayne Burdick <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi Don, >> >> Looks like 9-50 pF bottom-adjust trimmers are going out of style. See info >> from Paul below on the part we normally use. >> >> Here are two alternatives, in stock at Mouser, that might work, though these >> are also "NRND"/"EOL" according to documentation. Would you be interested in >> testing samples of these on the KX1 and K60XV PCBs so we can buy EOL stock? >> Paul could have samples sent directly to you. >> >> 81-TZ03P600N169B00 (10-60 pF) >> 81-TZ03P450N169B00 (7-45 pF) >> >> Please let me know right away. I can line up someone else if necessary. It >> would be great to have you try them since you work with these modules so >> often. >> >> tnx >> Wayne >> >> >>> On Jan 13, 2014, at 3:34 PM, Paul Russell - Elecraft Purchasing >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Wayne >>> >>> E540005, Mouser# Obsolete 659-GKG50016 ?..This is used on KX1,K60XV EAU >>> x100 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 26 > Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 13:50:33 +1300 > From: "Gary Hinson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Portable antnennas > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > How about making a homebrew multiband vertical for $not very much at all, > one that will literally fit in your pocket? > > Use a steel tape measure as the vertical radiator, with the body of the > measure lofted into the sky using a very low tech "bit of string" hanging > over the branch of a tree. Run out a few radials on the ground beneath, and > feed with a short run of coax to your Elecraft exciter. Pull or slacken the > string to adjust the length and get it to resonate and radiate on whichever > band you are using (you may be lucky if the body of the measure is heavy > enough to reel itself down when you release the string, but a safer method > uses a complete loop of string over the support, attached to the tape > measure body, so you can pull it either way). > > A 10m tape measure will do for 7MHz and up, provided you can find a sky hook > at least 10m up (palm trees in the tropics are about 15m high, I guess). If > your tape is only 8m long (most are, here in NZ), simply add an extension - > a couple of metres of wire on the free end of the tape - and connect that to > your coax. For 80m, if you have a 20m sky hook, you can extend the radiator > by adding another 10m of wire on the bottom end, or simply use the length of > wire as an inverted-L over whatever skyhook you can muster, the higher the > better. > > Spring steel is not an ideal conductor but it's good enough, especially as > you will have /P and perhaps an exotic prefix for "gain"! > > I think of this as the poor man's Steppir vertical. If the aforementioned > palm tree is dangling over the sea on a tropical island, your $negligible > investment will amaze you. > > There's a paper describing a slightly more sophisticated version on the web > - Google "Fat Max antenna" (Fat Max being the brand name of the tape measure > he used). > > 73 > Gary ZL2iFB > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:elecraft- >> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Mark Tellez >> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 13:14 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [Elecraft] Portable antnennas >> >> Hello all, >> >> I would like to get some advice - based on experience - regarding the > various >> portable antenna options there are currently available on the market. I > am >> considering the buddipole system, super antenna, chameleon, and others. I >> am interested in hearing about performance and quality/ durability of the >> construction. I am not going to be backpacking with the antenna but >> portability and ease of setup is a consideration. I will be operating > from 6m >> all the way through 80m. >> >> Thanks to all in advance. >> >> Mark >> __________________________________________________________ >> ____ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 27 > Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 16:59:14 -0800 > From: Fred Jensen <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Portable antnennas > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > So Arno, if you know this delete and you're making "plenty of contacts" > so you may but just in case. The Alexloop is a resonant transformer. > At it's resonant frequency, the coupling from the coax to the big loop > is huge. Off its resonant frequency, it is nil. If you have an ATU in > your radio, you should bypass it and tune the loop to 1:1 or as low as > you can get it. Some folks have had disappointing results with the > loop, and in all the cases I worked with them on, they were > approximating resonance with the knob and then letting the ATU match it. > > Good luck > > 73, > > Fred K6DGW > - Northern California Contest Club > - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 > - www.cqp.org > >> On 1/13/2014 3:51 PM, Arno Dienhart wrote: >> >> So, when a used AL came up on Yahoo, I grabbed it and now, reading your >> comparison, like it even more, having had the hunch that the BP will be a >> bit more like my wires in the tree, as far as setup time is concerned. Of >> course, an A/B/C/D comparison between the four would be better than >> guessing, but I am making plenty of contacts with the AL. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 28 > Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 17:17:13 -0800 > From: [email protected] > To: Steve Lawrence <[email protected]> > Subject: [Elecraft] 2014 Visalia Top Band Dinner > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > Announcing the Top Band Dinner at the 2014 Visalia DX Convention. > > The dinner wiil be held on Friday April 4, 2014. Craig Thompson, K9CT, will > be the featured speaker: "A Tale of Two Islands ? Wake and Amsterdam. The Low > Bands: Results, Comparisons and Contrasts." > > See this website for complete details and registration information: > > 2014 VISALIA TOP BAND DINNER > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 29 > Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 17:19:58 -0800 > From: [email protected] > To: Elecraft Reflector <[email protected]> > Subject: [Elecraft] 2014 Visalia Top Band Dinner > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > Announcing the Top Band Dinner at the 2014 Visalia DX Convention. > > The dinner wiil be held on Friday April 4, 2014. Craig Thompson, K9CT, will > be the featured speaker: "A Tale of Two Islands ? Wake and Amsterdam. The Low > Bands: Results, Comparisons and Contrasts." > > See this website for complete details and registration information: > > 2014 VISALIA TOP BAND DINNER > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 30 > Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 17:29:41 -0800 > From: "Ron Leech" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 on remote > Message-ID: <405F37F7E8E942C9A1EE4330CA3E0EAB@your27e1513d96> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Can Some one tell me if the KPA500 sould come back on if the 220v power was > turned off then back on. My amp has on ocation locked up using it remote so I > wired a relay to turn it off with the radio and back on when the radio is > turned back on but the amp still reqires that I switch it back on.Should it > come back on with the ac power by it self or can it be made to come on. > 73s va7mv Ron Leech > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 31 > Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 17:46:28 -0800 > From: [email protected] > To: Elecraft Reflector <[email protected]> > Subject: [Elecraft] UPDATE: 2014 Visalia Top Band Dinner > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > The clickable link is apprently stripped out but the server. > > ********************** > > Announcing the Top Band Dinner at the 2014 Visalia DX Convention. > > The dinner wiil be held on Friday April 4, 2014. Craig Thompson, K9CT, will > be the featured speaker: "A Tale of Two Islands ? Wake and Amsterdam. The Low > Bands: Results, Comparisons and Contrasts." > > See this website for complete details and registration information: > > topbanddinner<dot>jimdo<dot>com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 32 > Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 22:04:44 -0800 (PST) > From: mike <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Elecraft] [QRO] KXPA100-AT ~ Can antenna 2 be disabled? > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Is it possible to disable antenna 2? The warning "Be sure you have an antenna > or dummy load connected to the active antenna port before transmitting" is a > bit animus for my occasional fumble fingers. I guess I could just remember > to hook up a 100w dummy load to antenna 2 when I set up, but it would be > nice to just remove the possibility via FW. > > My KAT500 always remembers the last antenna used for the selected band. So I > guess that would be true with the AT in the KXPA100 and I could make sure to > set up each band I use with the correct antenna selection. The mistake I > don't want to make is holding the AT Tune / ANT button instead of taping it > and thereby selecting antenna 2. On the K3 they are two different buttons > and I am really unlikely to make the mistake. > > I thought I read a post on this before, but could not find it in my > searches. Tnx ..mike AI6II > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/QRO-KXPA100-AT-Can-antenna-2-be-disabled-tp7582858.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 33 > Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 00:32:01 -0600 > From: Gerald Manthey <[email protected]> > To: Wayne Burdick <[email protected]> > Cc: Elecraft Reflector <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Obsolete trimmer capacitors > Message-ID: > <CANpysv==Mw0XHpTP8MsT2=zrki6_0bwv1rmaj_2bbgkhut0...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > Thank you Wayne. > It was nice to see a tiny little fraction of what you have to deal with. > And also keeps us up to date too. > Keep up the great work. > Gerald - KC6CNN >> On Jan 13, 2014 6:41 PM, "Wayne Burdick" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Sorry for the bandwidth, guys. Slip of the email alias :) >> >> Now everyone gets an unexpected peak at the joys of finding substitutes >> for obsolete parts, in this case for the KX1 and K60XV boards. >> >> Not to worry; we always find alternates or work-arounds. >> >> 73, >> Wayne >> N6KR >> >> >>> On Jan 13, 2014, at 4:36 PM, Wayne Burdick <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Don, >>> >>> Looks like 9-50 pF bottom-adjust trimmers are going out of style. See >> info from Paul below on the part we normally use. >>> >>> Here are two alternatives, in stock at Mouser, that might work, though >> these are also "NRND"/"EOL" according to documentation. Would you be >> interested in testing samples of these on the KX1 and K60XV PCBs so we can >> buy EOL stock? Paul could have samples sent directly to you. >>> >>> 81-TZ03P600N169B00 (10-60 pF) >>> 81-TZ03P450N169B00 (7-45 pF) >>> >>> Please let me know right away. I can line up someone else if necessary. >> It would be great to have you try them since you work with these modules so >> often. >>> >>> tnx >>> Wayne >>> >>> >>>> On Jan 13, 2014, at 3:34 PM, Paul Russell - Elecraft Purchasing < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Wayne >>>> >>>> E540005, Mouser# Obsolete 659-GKG50016 ?..This is used on KX1,K60XV >> EAU x100 >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 34 > Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 08:53:49 +0100 > From: "Peter Eijlander (PA0PJE)" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected], [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] UPDATE: 2014 Visalia Top Band Dinner > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > The server deletes ALL code and just leaves the the plain text message. > > The bottom line is: > Just paste the link and do no use HTML to bury it in some nice clickable > button... > > see for yourself: > http://topbanddinner.jimdo.com/ > > Cheers, > Peter > > > Op 2014-01-14 2:46 schreef [email protected]: >> The clickable link is apprently stripped out but the server. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 35 > Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 05:09:52 -0700 > From: John Marvin <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Elecraft] Requirements for keying a KXPA100 > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > So, I got my KXPA100 kit and have assembled it. But I'm having trouble > keying it with my transceiver (HPSDR Hermes with alterations to support > driving the KXPA100). My circuit didn't have any trouble keying my > previous amp (a HFPacker V4). If I manually short the KXPA100 key input > things appear to work in the limited testing I've done, so I don't think > there is anything wrong with the KXPA100. > > I've measured 5V as expected at the key input, and I've measured the > current while connecting the KXPA100 key input to my transceiver. I'm > measuring 0.58 mA when the transceiver attempts to key the amp. The > KXPA100 manual says that the key current will be 1 mA max (if I am > reading that correctly) so this seems to be about right. Is there a > minimum current requirement? There is a 560 ohm resistor in series > internally, along with diodes (one in line with the key output to the > KXPA 100 and one inline with the key output to the internal tx preamp) > to prevent interaction between the two. > > Any ideas? My next experiment will probably involve changing or > bypassing the 560 ohm resistor, but I have doubts that will fix the problem. > > John > AC0ZG > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [email protected] > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > You must be a subscriber to post. > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > End of Elecraft Digest, Vol 117, Issue 18 > ***************************************** ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[email protected] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
