I didn't read his question that way, it seemed he wanted to operate in places where there are no power lines. I sold my KPA100 and KAT100 because I was always using my K2 at low power in the field, in the last several years activating SOTA summits. I've settled on LiFePO4 as the best choice. It's not "off the grid," all I'm doing is buying energy from Pacific Gas and Electric, stuffing it into a little package, and taking it with me in my pack.

Incidentally, if you charge your big battery with a gasoline generator, you're still "on the grid." From an economic perspective, "energy is energy," if it's not electrons coming from the power company in wires, it's gasoline coming from a refinery in a pipe. Solar, wind, or if you're fortunate enough to own a dam, can take you "off the grid." Be sure and include the capital cost of the solar panels, turbines, or the dam when you compute the cost of your energy. :-))

We all use propane here and my neighbor once commented that the price of propane tracked the price of gasoline. He was sure it was a government conspiracy [he has lots of those] and I don't think he believed me when I told him it's just economics.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014
- www.cqp.org

On 3/3/2014 8:53 PM, WILLIS COOKE wrote:

I suppose that David wishes to operate free from the grid to prove a
point, but the grid is very efficient and you cannot save money by
generating your own electricity unless the cost of transmission lines
is excessive, such as a mountain cabin or pipeline equipment in a
remote location.

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