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Gary KA1J > > > How about the software engineers at Elecraft making that an option in > > the next firmware update. You don't like it, don't use it. You do > > like it, then you can use it. To me it makes all the sense in the > > world. > > I can think of a lot more important things for the software engineer > (N1AL) on the P3 to be working on. > > 1) baseline clamping with a fixed offset when changing span > 2) fixing the center frequency setting on 17/12 meters when > changing bands > 3) fixing the center frequency on other bands so the display always > centers to an even 5/10/25 KHz step on the other bands. > 4) setting the fix tune mode so it limits the left/right edges of the > screen to the amateur band until one tunes out of the band > 5) fixing the loss of scale when changing bands (remember the scale > last used on the target band) > > 73, > > ... Joe, W4TV > > > On 3/19/2014 6:40 PM, Gary Smith wrote: > > Hi Joe & others who kindly replied, > > > > What I expect and what I see as efficient may be an "abnormal action" > > to another person but to me it is incredibly efficient and doing it > > otherwise is making work and is to me an abnormal action. > > > > What I want is engage split when I engage Magenta MKR 2, not to > > engage the my Sub Rx or anything else. If I want to check out an > > interesting signal seen on the P3 I will use the K3 VFO A to go there > > or if I want to do it with the P3 I will use the green MKR A to go > > there, certainly not MKR B. - The only time I want to use the magenta > > MKR B is when I want to transmit on the frequency I placed MKR B on. > > Otherwise MKR B is of no interest to me. > > > > To me, If I wanted to listen to two simultaneous unique signals at > > the same time by using MKR B to do that, I would expect to disengage > > split and engage the sub Rx. > > > > When I am in a pileup I don't care to use the sub RX to hear stations > > calling the DX at the same time I am. With the P3 I see the other > > stations and don't need to hear them as well. If I weren't using the > > P3 then I would want to hear with the sub Rx as otherwise it's > > shooting in the dark. > > > > It appears what I expected from the P3 in regards to automatic split > > with engaging MKR B is not in the software. For those of us who > > prefer to use the VFO A of the K3 to fine tune in the DX and use the > > advantage of a narrow span to select where to transmit split and > > pounce on it with MKR B, such an option would only make sense. > > > > How about the software engineers at Elecraft making that an option in > > the next firmware update. You don't like it, don't use it. You do > > like it, then you can use it. To me it makes all the sense in the > > world. > > > > 73, > > > > Gary > > KA1J > > > >>> What I was expecting as an built-in option though would be beneficial > >>> for anyone who operates as I do. > >> > >> That's not how it was designed to work. Enabling split anytime Marker B > >> was tapped would be disruptive to most users. > >> > >> In the vast majority of cases setting/tapping Marker B says "this is an > >> interesting signal - set VFO B so I can check it out using the KRX-3 or > >> by executing A/B." > >> > >> You are asking for something that is "a bridge to far" and expecting > >> the K3/P3 to anticipate an abnormal action. > >> > >> 73, > >> > >> ... Joe, W4TV > >> > >> > >> On 3/19/2014 11:17 AM, Gary Smith wrote: > >>> Sam, > >>> > >>> No, I've never made a macro, no idea how I'd approach that to > >>> accomplish this. If it would work I'd be willing to try. What I was > >>> expecting as an built-in option though would be beneficial for anyone > >>> who operates as I do. > >>> > >>> Gary > >>> KA1J > >>> > >>>> just a thought.... > >>>> how about creating a macro that does what you want...? > >>>> > >>>> On 3/19/2014 9:31 AM, Gary Smith wrote: > >>>>> Bill, > >>>>> > >>>>> Understood that some only use it that way, that is not my norm > >>>>> though. I chase DX and If I engage the magenta operation with the P3, > >>>>> its to be transmitting on a DX's listening frequency and in all those > >>>>> cases I will be split. > >>>>> > >>>>> Since 1979 I've never listened on two bands simultaneously and if I > >>>>> want to see what's happening on different bands that is of my DX > >>>>> interest, I use the spot log in Logic 9, my logging software and it > >>>>> compares all current spots posted in North America (my default) to > >>>>> what is needed in my log and displays who, what, when, & where and > >>>>> one click on the spot log & I QSY there. For that matter, it can > >>>>> retain that spotting data for up to a month if I'm seeking a trend on > >>>>> an operators methods. > >>>>> > >>>>> So, for my style of operation to date, I 100% of the time would want > >>>>> the P3 to engage MKR B as a transmit frequency. For the prior 20 > >>>>> years till I assembled the K3 in 08 I used a Corsair II & external > >>>>> VFO; I used it that way as well with the external VFO listening for > >>>>> the place to transmit. Now thanks to the P3 I can see the spots and > >>>>> don't need to hear them and the P3 is a great tool for DXing for me. > >>>>> > >>>>> What I do when I seek DX is so logical to me I can't help but think > >>>>> its common for others as well. SInce the P3 communicates with the K3, > >>>>> a firmware update of either the P3 or K3 to allow this choice of > >>>>> engaging split when you select MKR B would be a genuine asset, I > >>>>> expected it was a given. > >>>>> > >>>>> Gary > >>>>> KA1J > >>>>> > >>>>>> No, not intuitive. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> MKR B is the VFO B frequency. Often one wants to listen on the B > >>>>>> frequency. It may be on another band. > >>>>>> SPLIT is a special case, not the norm. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ...bill nr4c > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Gary Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Reading the P3 screen I see a station transmitting. I use Marker A > >>>>>> (Green) to pin me on that desired station as soon as I tap the knob > >>>>>> to QSY me to a desired signal. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I listen to the station and they say UP so I know to hold in the MKR > >>>>>> button to activate B ((Magenta) I see where the last transmission is > >>>>>> and I place the Magenta marker at that location and tap: The Sub Rx > >>>>>> goes to that frequency where the DX was last listening but sub is not > >>>>>> engaged, it just sits on that frequency and does nothing with it. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Problem is that if I don't then reach over and manually hold the > >>>>>> split button on the K3 itself to have the K3 transmit on the DX > >>>>>> listening frequency, I'll still keep transmitting on the DX transmit > >>>>>> frequency because the K3 will not have gone split; its as if the > >>>>>> procedure is halted half way and it shouldn't function this way, its > >>>>>> not intuitive. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If I'm going to the effort to engage Marker B to QSY its because I > >>>>>> want to transmit on the Marker B frequency. What do I have to the do > >>>>>> differently to force the K3 go split to transmit on the B freq when I > >>>>>> tap on MKR B? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Gary > >>>>>> KA1J > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> GB & 73 > >>>> K5OAI > >>>> Sam Morgan > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> --- > >>> This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! 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