No your history is not correct. The apple II was available by at least '78 using apple DOS. A few years later MSDOS was created out of desperation by MS when IBM ( for the upcoming IBM PC) wouldn't buy their languages ( MS' only product) unless it came with an operating system, something MS didn't produce. Gates wad able to buy a barely legal clone of CP/M, the most popular op system at the time, and they produced it for IBM as PCDOS. They then marketed it for themselves as MSDOS.
Brian KB1VBF Sent from my iPad > On May 28, 2014, at 12:52 PM, "Dauer, Edward" <eda...@law.du.edu> wrote: > > One of the interesting pieces of that history, from a retail consumer > user's (layman's) point of view, is that the Apple II (I owned a II+ in > the late 1970s) used MS-DOS as its operating system before Apple developed > its own. As I recall, the OS was not resident in the early hardware - to > use it you first loaded DOS in through a 5" floppy, then used another 5" > floppy for data. (My memory is imperfect, but I believe that was > correct.) The original IBM PC also had 5" floppy drives. One was for the > App (such as WordStar) and the other for the data files. The 3" disk was > a much later development, and a great leap forward. The IBM PC, which I > bought in 1982 plus or minus a couple of years, cost me $5,000 in the > dollars of the day. > > > The most significant development, which some folks today don't remember or > never knew, is that e-mail and the Internet began as separate systems. > E-mail used ordinary phone lines in its earliest days. I remember well > sitting in airport boarding lounges with a set of alligator clips and a > screwdriver which I used to remove the cap from the modular telephone > jacks so I could dial up other members of our e-mail network. I don't > recall the year, but I do remember that when e-mail was merged with the > Internet the whole world changed. > > The idea of controlling my radio equipment with my computer in the 70s > never occurred to me . . . . > > Do I have that history right? > > Ted, KN1CBR > > >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 06:39:23 -0500 >> From: Jim Rogers <jim.w4...@gmail.com> >> To: d...@w3fpr.com, elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's linux utilities - somewhat OT, or >> maybe not >> Message-ID: <5385caeb.8020...@gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> Actually Don, the Apple II preceded the IBM PC and had a very strong >> following. As the owner of a consulting firm that placed some Apple IIs >> doing some difficult, at that time, interfacing to main frames we >> welcomed the appearance of the IBM PC when it came on the scene. We had >> the second IBM PC in Birmingham and after a couple of days of evaluation >> recompiled our software and the rest was history. >> >> 73s Jim, W4ATK >>> On 5/27/2014 9:31 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: >>> And those computers Tom Watson was speaking of took a large controlled >>> environment room just for the various pieces. It was certainly not a >>> desktop computer. >>> Desktop computers did not come into being until the advent of the IBM >>> PC in the 1980s. I bought my daughter a new IBM PC with 2 floppy >>> drives and 64k of ram for her to use in her college classes. It was >>> later upgraded with a 5 MB hard drive which replaced one of the floppy >>> drives (3.5 inch floppys). >>> >>> We have come a long way since that time. That system cost $2500 at >>> the time, now I can buy a computer with a LOT more capability for less >>> than $300. >>> >>> 73, >>> Don W3FPR >>> >>>> On 5/27/2014 9:43 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: >>>> At sometime in the 50's, the President of IBM is alleged to have >>>> said, "The worldwide market for computers is probably about twelve." >>>> Apparently he didn't know Doug. >>>> >>>> 73, >>>> >>>> Fred K6DGW >>>> - Northern California Contest Club >>>> - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 >>>> - www.cqp.org >>>> >>>>> On 5/27/2014 1:29 PM, Doug Person via Elecraft wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I probably have 15 working computers. > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to b.den...@comcast.net ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
