Phil,

It appears that there are three types of batteries with lithium in their names ... Li-ion, Li-poly, and LiFePO4. Li-ion, in one or another of the variants, usually power laptops, cell phones, and Tesla's. They're pretty stable, you can take them on aircraft although there are some limits on total weight and packing.

Li-poly are very small and light with a high energy density and are used mainly by RC hobbyists. I have a 750 mAh one for my KX1, it's a little smaller than a small matchbox and weighs an ounce or so. They're somewhat unstable, I wouldn't recommend internal mounting. I had one catch fire while I was operating, it was on a pigtail which I pulled loose and tossed it over the deck rail onto our gravel driveway. I always charge my current one outside.

LiFePO4 seem to be very stable. I have a 4S1P A123 2.5 Ah pack for my K2. At full charge, it is almost 14 V which drops quickly to around 13.5 where it pretty much stays until almost depleted. With my K2 on CW in QRP field contests [flight of the bumbles], it has powered 3-4 hours of steady operation. So far, I get tired and hungry faster than I can run it down. It does require a cell-balancing charger, mine is a CellPro-Multi4 which will charge a variety of chemistries. Considering all, LiFePO4 seems to be the best choice ham use.

Use great care with Li batteries of any flavor. They have an incredibly high energy density for their size and weight, and incredibly low internal resistance, so fuse the leads and don't ever short it. My 2.5 Ah pack will easily deliver 10 to 15 times that [25 - 40 A] into a short. You can spot weld with them and some of the larger ones would probably start my truck.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015
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On 5/26/2015 11:42 AM, Phil Hystad wrote:
Thanks Jim,

I took a look and they appear to be cheaper than the A123 packs (the
brief scan I did) — I may buy one or two.  But, with my two 4S1P A123
battery packs have performed very well with the KX3 so far.
Although, this is a KX3 running QRP to 10 watts.
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