I hope to not live in an apartment that long :)

On 5/30/15, 4:03 PM, "G4GNX" <g4...@theatreorgans.co.uk> wrote:

>Fortunately these devices are not mandated in the UK.
>
>Whilst the prevention of fires is laudable, ISTM that the regulators have
>jumped the gun and insisted on the use of a device that is still under
>development.
>
>Reading the WIKI on AFCI breakers, where lightning nuisance trips occur,
>they are under-developed "devices of the devil"!
>
>Perhaps it's time that litigation took place, along the lines of: "It was
>late at night and there was an electrical storm which caused an AFCI to
>trip, which resulted in the lights failing. My aging mother fell down the
>stairs in the dark and broke her collar bone, for which I hold you fully
>responsible"!!!
>
>It would seem that it is still not possible to fix 'stupid'!
>
>73,
>
>Alan. G4GNX
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Don Wilhelm
>Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2015 10:01 PM
>To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini - Experiences?
>
>I recall reading something in an ARRL publication or newsletter that at
>least one manufacturer of AFCI breakers has addressed and corrected the
>problem of RF susceptibility.  That company is Eaton.
>
>It is a bummer that consumers must suffer from products that do not have
>sufficient RF immunity.  If all manufacturers would 'step up to the
>plate' and accept that we live in a world where RF is present, often in
>strong fields, we would not have a problem.  Hams are not the only cause
>of RF problems - think of the problems encountered by those who reside
>near broadcast stations.  RF fields are emitted by police, fire and
>other emergency service transmitters.
>IMHO, more manufacturers must be willing to design products that can
>withstand reasonable RF fields.  Of course, most consumers do not
>understand that, and the ham "is to blame".  There was a parallel back
>in the 1950s and 1960s with television interference when many TVs were
>designed with front ends and IF chains that would pick up RF on most any
>frequency, much to the consumer's dismay and blame placed on the ham,
>even if his transmissions were clean of harmonics.
>It just about drove operation on 15 meters off the air because many TV
>sets used a 21 MHz IF that was 'wide open' for interference.
>
>73,
>Don W3FPR
>
>On 5/30/2015 4:13 PM, ab2tc wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Sorry, I don't have a K3/0, but your problem certainly caught my
>>interest. 
>> I
>> had never heard of AFCI breakers before, but a quick Google search got
>>me
>> quickly reeducated and my eyes glazed over. Wow, these RF prone devices
>> have
>> been mandatory since 1999!
>
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