How is that going to work? Are you commanding the radio or talking to
someone? Doesn't seem simple to me.
73
Fred, AE6QL

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From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
Richard W. Solomon
Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 12:05 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Touch-screen displays

Simple answer ... provide speech recognition. Lots of cars have it built in.

73, Dick, W1KSZ

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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Touch-screen displays

There is yet another major problem with those touch-screen displays.  On
mobile installations, they are very distracting, therefore very dangerous.
If there isn't a labeled button for it, it isn't easy to use.  Also, long
presses to activate a function don't always work well when you are on a
bumpy road, which describes a lot of our major highway and city streets
these days, especially in southern Arizona.

Meanwhile, one of the big problems even on base-station rigs is that you are
still faced with MENU choices that can be several levels deep and completely
non-intuitive.  How much time do you want to spend just getting the radio
ready to listen in your preferred mode?  There can be literally hundreds of
choices, some labeled in someones tech-speak.  
(When was the last time you referred to mic input gain as multi/ch or
digital mode input level as dAtA DT GaIN - menu item 65 of 178?)  Or worse
yet, you select menu item 50, only to be told to press SUB to enable
changing it.

The KX3 isn't immune to this, either.  It sometimes requires that you press
and hold KHZ for 3 seconds to enable changing a setting.
I started operating FLDIGI in RIGCAT mode specifically so I could create
macros that would :
     [1] change the mode,
     [2] set rig frequency,
     [3] set display freq,
     [4] change the bandwidth,
     [5] display a message to the user,  and
     [6] start auto-tune
and do all this with ONE click of a labeled button.

Ron W7HD

Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
> I'm the same way, I work on complex stuff all day as well.
> In my other Expensive Hobby I keep a Reef Aquarium. I've seen a lot of
gizmos and gadgets come and go over the yearsand even I fell for a few of
them, but more and more I have come full circle and back to the tried
methods and equipment.
> I think many at times fall for the latest gizmo or craze, then we 
> realize
that it's not all it's cracked up to be.
>
> Touchscreens do have their place, but not on an HF rig (at least mine) 
> I
prefer real buttons and knobs.
> I bought the K-Line is because it was straightforward and not overly 
> (and
unnecessarily complex) and somethingthat I could work on if it breaks. At
the end of the day I want a radio that lets me hear the other guy, so I can
talk to him.
>
>
>
>
>
>        From: Phil Hystad<phys...@mac.com>
>   To: Jerry Moore<je...@carolinaheli.com>
> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; John Fritze<fritzej...@gmail.com>
>   Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 10:43 AM
>   Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300
>
>> Personally I'm surrounded and use fancy tech all day long. When it's 
>> time to get on the air I want simple, straight up, and reliable.
>
> DITTO!
>
> 73, phil, K7PEH
>
>
>
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