I am going to go off on a wild tangent as a method of testing all receivers for the ability to copy signals in the midst of very crowded band conditions and/or the presence of noise. Whether those receivers have analog front ends or an ADC.

An extremely crowded band could be simulated by broadband noise.
So take a medium strength single signal (say S-5) and inject it into the receiver under test. Now add a low amplitude broadband noise signal, and increase it until the signal is buried in the broadband noise.

The receiver that can withstand the greater broadband noise level while still recognizing the single signal "wins". That says nothing about the overload of the ADC for those receivers that put the ADC at the antenna - that is something for other test parameters.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/15/2015 6:28 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
On Tue,9/15/2015 1:52 PM, Tony Estep wrote:
On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV <[email protected]> wrote:

....noise power ratio testing hides the fact by not providing MDS values under each test condition *and* fails to indicate that even with *no preamplifier* the total noise signal is more than 10 dB *less*...
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I take this to mean that the test results are not comparable across radios, and the SDRs are 10db worse than they show up on the comparison chart. If this is true, it ain't good.

You've got the concept right -- the only difference is that 10 dB is not a "hard" number -- it could be anything from 5 to 30 dB, depending on how much test signal strength has been turned down, or preamp gain removed, to get the input of the digital system out of clip!

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