Yes, and a Flex 6700's ADC evidently didn't crumble in the big signal jungle on topband and garnered #1 USA (assisted/unlimited) in the recent CQ WW 160M CW contest.
73, Barry N1EU On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 5:56 PM, dave <[email protected]> wrote: > > The observation I would make on this is that the poor performing Icoms > were good enough to capture all 3 of the top positions in the recent WRTC. > IIRC there was one Elecraft and 5 Icoms used by the top 3 teams. > > I don't want to read too much into that, op skills play heavily in the > results. And luck plays a role as well. But nonetheless, even though the > 'numbers' of the Icoms are not all that good, they appear to be 'good > enough'. > > They do have too much TX noise. But then nearly all rigs have too much TX > noise. > > My view is that the top-of-the-line rigs are serious overkill for nearly > all hams. > > Even the lowly FT-857, which is no ones idea of a 'contest rig', did > surprisingly well in the hands of two very good ops. This was back in the > WRTC in 2010. Their pair of K3's were wiped out by lightning. They lost an > hour of op time while swapping rigs but still finished about 35th out of > 50. At the end of that lost hour they were dead last, but then climbed back > up the list. So I think the evidence indicates that even under the > demanding condx of a contest a lot of rigs are good enough to be > competitive. Guys should spend less on rigs and more on antennas. Or maybe > spend that extra $$$ on beer and women . . . > > 73 de dave > > > > On 3/2/16 11:09 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: > >> >> On 3/2/2016 11:49 AM, lstavenhagen wrote: >> >>> I don't doubt at all that Icom's high end rigs are good rigs with >>> good performance, but the K3 and K3S at the core of the Elecraft >>> investment still far outperform them for less money. For me anyway, >>> Icoms offer nothing comparable to the K line at the upper end of the >>> $ range, not even close. >>> >> >> If you look at test data from both Sherwood and ARRL, I don't believe >> you can consider any of the Icom rigs (ProIII, 7600, 7700, 7800) to >> be "high performance" (I'm holding judgement until I see test data >> on the 7851). In all cases, phase noise and 2 KHz IMDDR3 are barely >> adequate with 2 KHz IMDDR3 between 70 and 80 dB and phase noise in >> the 125 - 130 dBc/Hz range 10 KHz from carrier. >> >> Those numbers put Icom's top of the line rigs behind well known "High >> performance" rigs like the Flex-1500 and Yaesu FTdx3000! >> >> 73, >> >> ... Joe, W4TV >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [email protected] >> >> ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [email protected] > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[email protected] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [email protected]
