Is it possible that it 'belched' and the power reset is what really fixed it?

73,
Rick WA6NHC

Tiny iPhone keypad, spell check happens

> On May 16, 2016, at 1:40 PM, Todd Ruby <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Well Ron, I guess there's a first time for everything. Although the radio was 
> deaf and dumb, I had display function and it looked as it normally does after 
> turning on the power. There was just no receive nor output power. 
> 
> I turned it off, pressed the 20 amp circuit breaker on the rear panel and 
> sigs were coming through the headphones and I had full power. 
> 
> Today it's also operating perfectly. 
> 
> 73
> 
> Todd
> 
>> On May 16, 2016, at 3:30 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Todd responded to me off the reflector that he lost all power to the K3 so 
>> it wasn’t the 20A breaker. That only controls power to the KPA3. The front 
>> panel is still powered and the receiver continues to work.
>> 
>> I suggested it might be the self-resetting breaker inside the K3. That will 
>> turn it off completely. Actually power will still be on the KPA3 module and 
>> anything plugged into the 12V external power connector on the K3 rear panel, 
>> but the K3 itself will look dead with no front panel lights, receive or 
>> other functions until it cools and resets itself.
>> 
>> I’ve never had an issue with either breaker opening unexpectedly.
>> 
>> 73, Ron AC7AC
>> 
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 12:18 PM
>> To: Ron D'Eau Claire; 'todd ruby'; 'Elecraft Reflector Reflector'
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] circuit breaker
>> 
>> I believe Todd is referring to the breaker on the K3, not his house panel 
>> circuit?
>> Ron has some good advice, but I wonder how common this circuit breaker 
>> operates? 
>> 
>> I looked thru my manual for more info on it.  The block diagram shows it as 
>> a 25A fuse,
>> text and device indicate 20A circuit breaker, but NO  info on the type 
>> operating curve, or current vs. time for minimum trip?
>> 
>> I have a 10A circuit breaker on my 40Ahr battery supply and it has never 
>> tripped.  It is a thermal time delay like most house breakers.
>> 
>> Anyone out there have any clue?   Wayne?     
>> 
>> Mike  AC5P
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Monday, May 16, 2016 12:28 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> The normal underlying cause for the breaker to open is over-current. That's
>> a 20A breaker that protects only the KPA3 100 watt amplifier module. The
>> first thing I'd do is check the current drain from your power supply on the
>> band where you experienced the problem. First set the power to 10 watts so
>> the KPA3 is bypassed and note the total current drain key down. Now crank up
>> the power and see if the part used by the KPA3 is pushing 20A. For example,
>> if your total current at 10 W was 3A, does the total at 100 watts approach
>> 23A? IF so, the breaker was simply doing its job. Note that circuit breakers
>> are not precision devices so it may trip a couple of amperes one way or the
>> other from 20A. 
>> 
>> A primary reason for excessive KPA3 current is a high SWR on your antenna
>> system. The higher the SWR, the less efficient the KPA3 becomes and the more
>> current it has to draw to produce the power. 
>> 
>> A defective breaker can also start tripping at lower currents. 
>> 
>> 73, Ron AC7AC
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Elecraft [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of todd
>> ruby
>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 9:08 AM
>> To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector
>> Subject: [Elecraft] circuit breaker
>> 
>> Would anyone venture to guess what would cause the circuit breaker to trip
>> on a K3? Mine did all of a sudden yesterday. Fortunately, my friend
>> suggested the reset and voila, I am back on the air. But if there is an
>> underlying cause, I think it would be wise to be aware of it so as to
>> preclude this episode from repeating. Any thoughts are welcome.
>> 
>> 73
>> 
>> todd
>> 
>> WB2ZAB
>> 
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