Even tiny hearing aid batteries ... supposedly "dead" ... among pocket
change can explode with a surprising amount of energy.

73

Ken - K0PP

On Feb 18, 2017 7:34 PM, "Jim Miller" <jimmil...@stl-online.net> wrote:

> It has been a long time but... I had a battery in my pocket (not sure any
> more but probably a 9v), no change in the pocket and do not remember what
> it
> was that caused the problem (probably my knife) but something apparently
> shorted the terminals and I felt uncomfortable, jostled my pocket, then
> warm, then hot and HAD to get whatever it was out.  I burned my hand. The
> battery got MUCH hotter even after it was out.  It would have caused a
> serious burn to my leg had I not removed it.  I could only describe the
> situation as an avalanche failure inside the battery.
>
> I will not forget that experience and never put batteries in my pocket of
> where they can short any longer.
>
> 73, Jim KG0KP
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don
> Wilhelm
> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2017 6:01 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ECOM scare -- FW: Soldering lesson
>
> I was involved in product testing in my former career.
> One large computing machine which I worked on had a backup battery
> consisting of 4 AA cells, which no-one thought would be a problem, but
> during environmental testing at shipping extremes, condensation formed and
> created leakage paths.  It was a hard sell to convince management and many
> engineers that AA cells could cause a problem.
>
> The following action was to do extensive testing in the power systems lab
> in
> which several destructive tests were performed, which included shorting the
> battery pack terminals.
>
> It is amazing how much current those "lowly" AA cells can produce in a
> shorted situation.  Under short conditions, they are just as powerful as
> any
> other battery, but the duration of the huge current discharge is shorter
> than for larger batteries.
>
> Lesson I learned is to be careful with any battery.  High density battery
> chemistries make the short circuit discharge duration longer and can cause
> more damage.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 2/18/2017 6:25 PM, Rick WA6NHC wrote:
>
> > Don't forget that some of the battery packs we commonly use now
> > (LiFePo4 is my example) are capable of tremendous current (mine are
> > 'fused' by a BMS at 100 amps).
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