There seems to be some disappointment that a relatively compact wide-range 
auto-tuner at legal limit CCS (or even ICAS) is not included.  I don’t consider 
this a negative.

1.  A legal limit "LOW LOSS" CCS tuner using the build methods of most typical 
ham auto-tuners would be large and heavy with BIG toroids or air-wound 
inductors and probably vacuum caps, and expensive.  The usual supposed 
wide-range high power auto stuff is ICAS at best — with the operative word 
being “Intermittent”, unless you’re trying to boil water or vaporize circuit 
board traces.

2.  There are many ways to bring any antenna/feedline's Z0 to something that a 
reasonably-sized affordable auto-tuner can handle at not too great a feed line 
SWR.  Not the least of which is to feed a commercial old fashioned mechanical 
tuner with heavy-rated components that can handle the reflected power from 
whatever bobbie-pin you’re trying to match without just melting all the plastic 
in the tuner if you key down for a bit too long.

The Drake L4B (and most well built tube amps) have wide range Pi-networks with 
heavy components (large air-wound inductors, caps, switch contacts) that can 
handle the stress of high SWR at the amplifier’s output.  But even that won’t 
successfully match anything you throw at it (well, except for the Johnson 
Ranger, but thats not the subject).  Look at the innards of an MN2000 or Millen 
92200 to get a feel for it.

In most cases you can use a (good, not fine junk) mechanical tuner (knobs you 
have to turn, meters you have to read) to set the SWR in a band to somewhere in 
the vicinity of 1:1 at the midpoint of operating interest, and most well made 
internal tuners can manage the band edges in that case — when the load is 
non-resonant and presents a high SWR.

I suspect a real auto-tuner that can handle just about anything at 1500 watts 
at key down for a long period would take at least another KPA1500 sized box.

(Just another curmudgeonly opine)


Grant NQ5T
K3 #2091, KX3 #8342



> On Apr 21, 2017, at 2:57 PM, Wes Stewart <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Without modeling it, I would guess that it will actually narrow the matched 
> BW and it makes it a single band antenna at the same time.
> 
> My Drake L4-B would drive anything.  When I decided I needed a new challenge 
> (9BDXCC) I wanted to get on 160.  Of course the Drake didn't cover 160 and my 
> then K3, now K3S doesn't have a tuner.  So I added some wire to the ends of 
> the 80-meter inverted V.  This meant that I didn't have an 80-meter antenna 
> but the Drake would drive it anyway.  Currently, with a KPA500 and KAT500 I 
> have modest power on 160 but the KAT500 chokes on 80 at above 200-300 Watts.
> 
> Hence the new vertical for next season.
> 
> On 4/21/2017 11:10 AM, [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>> It is very easy to put a hairpin coil on your top band vertical and bring
>> the resonant SWR to 1:1. This should give you much more usable SWR
>> bandwidth for the KPA1500. Many commercial tube amplifiers will only
>> tolerate 2:1 SWR.
>> 
>> John KK9A
>> 
>> 
>> 





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