Thanks for all info so far. I *do* enjoy the reduced cabling resulting from
the upgrade from K3 to K3S. Looks like that goes away with RemoteRig.

I'll keep looking...

73

jim ab3cv

On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 6:45 AM, Jim Rhodes <jimk...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Rick and Skip, you forget that the k3s has a direct UPS connection and
> internal sound card that users often prefer to use as there is then less
> cabling involved. This is not possible with remoterig as far as I know.
> Wish it were.
>
> Jim Rhodes
> K0XU
>
> On Aug 13, 2017 23:59, "Fred Jensen" <k6...@foothill.net> wrote:
>
> > There are two questions on the list, here's what I know to both:
> >
> > Re quoted message below:  Yes.  RemoteRig will install 4 "virtual" COM
> > ports.  View them in the Device Manager under PORTS.  If you're
> fortunate,
> > they will be labeled RRC-1258 COM0, -COM1, -COM2, and -COM Extra.  See
> > below if you're not fortunate. Following each one, in [ ], will be
> another
> > COM port. Find the RRC-1258 COM1 port and use the [COMx] as the port in
> > your logger as the K3 port.  It is really talking to the remote radio.
> > It's more or less transparent.
> >
> > For the less fortunate: Sometimes some flavors of Win10 show the ports in
> > the Device Mangler, however they will be missing the RRC-1258 label.
> Watch
> > as you turn on the RRC, they always seem to come up in the order listed
> > above, label or not.
> >
> > Re your other message: Yes, it is essentially like "being there," or more
> > appropriately, it is just as if your K3/mini is making the RF.  There is
> > just barely noticeable latency if you spin the dial rapidly, and there
> will
> > be some I'net QRN [quick pops, and snaps], and occasionally dropouts,
> > depending on your connection and ISP.  BW requirements are fairly low,
> > maybe 150-200 KBps, from watching the router here[50 MBps ATT Uverse]
> here.
> >
> > Teamviewer [or similar] can be used to control your station automation,
> > including the control program for the KPA500 or [I presume] the KPA1500.
> > Getting the P3 to work is another issue with no simple answer. The P3
> takes
> > input from the remote K3's 8 MHz first IF.  The P3 at the remote is also
> > connected to the remote K3 which makes the various modes work and track
> the
> > radio.I'm sure many technological suggestions will be forthcoming here,
> but
> > believe me, it is non-trivial.
> >
> > Teamviewer latency is annoyingand makes dragging windows around the
> screen
> > or resizing them very frustrating. Controlling rotators works OK but you
> > need to cultivate a high degree of patience with the mouse.
> >
> > If you want to switch the remote radio to local when you're there, just
> > disconnect the RRC-1258.  A lot of the details depend on how you're
> keying
> > and connecting the mic/headphones/spkrs.  Running remote, keying the mini
> > [from the internal keyer or the key jack] keys the remote. The mic/line
> in
> > function just as if they were connected AT the remote.
> >
> > Hope this helps
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Fred ("Skip") K6DGW
> > Sparks NV USA
> > Washoe County DM09dn
> >
> > On 8/13/2017 5:34 PM, Jim Miller wrote:
> >
> >> Another K3/0-mini RR question:
> >>
> >> If I have a laptop at the control point running my logging program or
> >> N1MM+
> >> for contesting how does it communicate with K3/0-mini if the mini is
> >> connected to the RR?
> >>
> >> thanks
> >>
> >> jim ab3cv
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 8:08 PM, Jim Miller <j...@jtmiller.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I have a K3s, P3 (and someday a KPA1500) and I'm considering a RemoteRig
> >>> and K3/Mini for remote operation.
> >>>
> >>> I realize the P3 access and KPA1500 if any will need to come from some
> >>> other source like Teamviewer or VNC. I need that for controlling the
> >>> rotator and power switching anyway.
> >>>
> >>> I'm told that RR/K3-mini performance is like "being there."
> >>>
> >>> One issue I have is the amount of disconnecting and reconnecting of
> >>> cables
> >>> when switching from local operation of the K3s to setting up for remote
> >>> operation.
> >>>
> >>> Nothing I've seen in the documentation leads me to believe that this
> >>> reconfiguration of cabling for the K3s is any simpler that what is
> needed
> >>> for the original K3.
> >>>
> >>> For those of you who have RR and a K3s: did I miss something? Does the
> >>> cleaned up wiring on the K3s via USB for normal local operation offer
> any
> >>> advantages when it comes to RR configuration?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>>
> >>> jim ab3cv
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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