I understand why, I was just not aware the K3 needed to be actually shut down explicitly.

I tend to never pull power from anything running anyway, (too many years doing PC, and dedicated hardware support in broadcast), but I was totally unaware the K3 needed a shutdown sequence...

In fact my shack desk has a dedicated 12 V power setup, which lives on the back of the desk, so I can't get to the switch without reaching behind the desk...

What a surprise! I guess I need to re-read the manuals! I missed that in both manuals!

73s and thanks,
Dave
NK7Z
http://www.nk7z.net

On 10/13/2017 01:35 PM, Mark E. Musick wrote:
Yes Dave, it is true.
These days with most radios using some sort of microprocessor you should turn 
all brands off, not just Elecraft, using the power switch on the radio, not the 
switch on the power supply. This allows the processor inside the radio to save 
parameters etc. to memory and go through an orderly shutdown before it actually 
shuts power off to the radio. If you shut off the radio by turning it off using 
the power switch on the power supply the processor does not go through its 
orderly shutdown and you can scramble the processors brain. When you turn it on 
again you don't know what state it will power up in. If it powers up correctly, 
you were lucky.
Shut the radio off using its front panel switch first, then shut the power 
supply off.

73,
Mark, WB9CIF

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 8:00 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 after turning on doesn't receive or transmit

Respectfully, is that really true?  The K3 needs to be shutdown via the Power 
switch due to some sort of shutdown procedure, (or internal timings issue), 
within the radio?

73s and thanks,
Dave
NK7Z
http://www.nk7z.net

On 10/13/2017 11:52 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
I would also comment with Knut, AB2TC, that one must always turn the
radio on and off with the power switch.  This allows the internal
workings to store the data.   If you use a "master station switch"
thus just dump the power supply then the radio may not store the data
as required.   I recall the term "power down imminent" or PDI.

Years ago we had "the big switch" which was used to shut the station
down.  Today with all of the computerized gadgets, power down in
sequence is more and more of a must do.

In another brand of radio to which I am familiar, there is a CPU
timing circuit that assures the CPU is up and running before loading
the operating code.   If this circuit is running too fast, it may
cause a partial load and related error.  This circuit is basically a
simple RC network, and with age the C value decreases thus making the
timing circuit run too fast.   i.e.  not enough delay.

73

Bob, K4TAX



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