This is a remnant of days long gone when the PC - DOS and early Windows systems 
used serial-port connected mice. It used the sequence to detect the presence of 
a mouse. The Mac has never used asynchronous serial-port based mice, instead 
using a special bus, followed by ADB in early Macs (starting with the Mac 
Plus), then USB after it was adopted. Thus it does not mess with the serial 
ports on startup. 

I now wonder why Microsoft maintains this arcane procedure since its utility 
has long passed into history.

Jack, W6FB


> On Mar 31, 2018, at 4:31 PM, Bill Frantz <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I guess I'm not being clear. I don't think the Mac moves the DTR/RTS lines 
> when it boots. I haven't ever seen the K3 go into transmit mode when I reboot.
> 
> Of course that might be because I have PTT_KEY set to OFF-OFF and use VOX for 
> sound card modes except wsjt-x and RUMlogNG contest mode. (They use the CAT 
> interface.)
> 
> 73 Bill AE6JV
> 
> On 3/29/18 at 5:11 PM, [email protected] (Don Wilhelm) wrote:
> 
>> If you have updated the K3 firmware in the last few months, it does not make 
>> any difference whether the K3 or the computer is turned on first.
>> The K3 now has a SAFE mode that disables DTR and RTS until it receives some 
>> command like polling for frequency, mode, etc. from your software 
>> application.
>> 
>> You can go into the K3 CONFIG menu for KEY-PTT and turn it to unsafe if you 
>> have devices that monitor the RS-232 bus and do not issue any commands 
>> (SteppIR controllers for one instance).
>> 
>> Look at the firmware release notes for the past 3 months.
>> BTW, the firmware release notes should be considered an addition to your 
>> K3/K3S manual.  Do not overlook them.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>> 
>> On 3/29/2018 6:58 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:
>>> On my Mac system, it doesn't seem to matter whether the radio or the 
>>> computer starts first. The USB interface to my upgraded K3 is powered from 
>>> the computer with enough functionality that the computer recognizes it 
>>> without the radio being on.
>>> 
>>> In any case, start wsjt-x last because it will try to talk to the radio for 
>>> rig control and harass you until it can succeed. I've been in this 
>>> situation enough times to know that starting the radio, waiting until the 
>>> radio is ready to talk to the computer and then clicking "Retry" works.
>>> 
>>> 73 Bill AE6JV
>>> 
>> 
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