Eric: Concur this horse has been beaten senseless, lacking a conclusion.
But to set us straight, how did Elecraft handle this notion in its SS 30 DV? Do I need to scrape paint or disconnect wires to be safe? Thanks, Ed McCann AG6CX Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 19, 2018, at 11:49 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > Send Elecraft mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Elecraft digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: KPA1500 Caution (Edward R Cole) > 2. Re: Negative rail grounding (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft) > 3. Re: KPA1500 Caution (John Marvin) > 4. Packing Peanuts Are Of the Devil! (Jim Brown) > 5. WTB: Loaded KX3 (Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS) > 6. Re: Packing Peanuts Are Of the Devil! (Bill) > 7. UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution (N4ZR) > 8. Re: UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution ([email protected]) > 9. Re: UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution (Dave Sublette) > 10. Longer K-Pod cable? (Bob Novas) > 11. Re: UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution (Joe Subich, W4TV) > 12. Re: UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution (Don Wilhelm) > 13. Re: UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution (Mark E. Musick) > 14. Re: UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution (Jim N7US) > 15. Re: UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution (Don Wilhelm) > 16. Re: UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution (N4ZR) > 17. Re: UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution (SAMUEL L ROWE) > 18. Re: Longer K-Pod cable? (Don Wilhelm) > 19. Re: Packing Peanuts Are Of the Devil! (David Gilbert) > 20. Re: Packing Peanuts Are Of the Devil! (Rick WA6NHC) > 21. Re: Packing Peanuts Are Of the Devil! (rich hurd WC3T) > 22. UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution ([email protected]) > 23. Re: Longer K-Pod cable? (Bill Frantz) > 24. Re: Longer K-Pod cable? (Chuck Milam, N9KY) > 25. Re: [KX3] New Product: SPX3 External Speaker (Robert Morris) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 20:36:54 -0800 > From: Edward R Cole <[email protected]> > To: Elecraft Reflector <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Caution > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > In today's USPS, both UPS and FedEx also carry the "mail" so one > cannot be sure who the "actual carrier" is. > > I have no home delivery of US Mail so my USPS packages are held > secure inside the PO. Both UPS and FedEx delivery are drop n scoot > (lucky if you are home and hear the knock). And there your lovely > $5K purchase sits out in the wx available for thieves. I could opt > for one of the box clusters which would result in driving 25-miles to > the PO to pickup boxes too large. RFD is out of a neighbor city. My > local PO is 4.5 miles. When I was still employed the PO was 0.25 mi > from work which made it very convenient. Its a small town PO and > they know me by name. > > Another reason to chose Priority Mail is that UPS/FedEx cost 2x to 3x > as much for delivery to Alaska (and 2-day delivery is 3-day+ for > all three services). No UPS/FedEx on weekends. PO is open on Saturday. > > 73, Ed - KL7UW > http://www.kl7uw.com > Dubus-NA Business mail: > [email protected] > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 22:09:53 -0700 > From: "Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Negative rail grounding > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Gentlemen, This thread and related threads is getting well past our max OT > posting limit. Please take it off list for now and report back on your final > conclusions if you come to agreement. > > 73, > Eric > Moderator most of the time.. > elecraft.com > _..._ > > > >>> On Apr 18, 2018, at 4:09 PM, Phil Kane <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> On 4/18/2018 11:28 AM, Jim Brown wrote: >>> >>> NEC does not apply to low voltage DC systems. >> >> Oh? Check NEC Section 7 , specifically Article 720, which applies >> specifically to Low Voltage systems. (We do a LOT of 48V distribution >> system designs.) >> >> Philip M. Kane Esq / P.E. (K2ASP since 1952) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 23:37:31 -0600 > From: John Marvin <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Caution > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > In general, the quality of service that you perceive from the USPS, UPS > or FedEx is almost completely due to the behavior of your local delivery > person. None of the carriers treat your package with kid gloves, and a > lot of it is automated such that they really don't pay any attention to > "Fragile" notices, etc.? Most of the time if your package is damaged > before your local delivery person gets their hands on it, it is due to > low quality packing materials used by the shipper. > > Judging the overall nationwide quality of the USPS, UPS or Fedex based > on what you see from your local delivery people doesn't make much > sense.? That's why when people get in this type of discussion you hear > about all the nightmares of a particular service from one person, and > all the kudo's of the same service from another person. > > I happen to be lucky in that my local delivery people for all three > services vary from very good to outstanding (my USPS carrier, when > delivering a package, comes to the door with the rest of my mail, and > rings the bell, waiting for me to come to the door. If I'm not home he > places the package behind a post near the front door, and delivers the > mail to the street mailbox). But friends living in the same town with > postal workers working out of the same post office facility, have lots > of bad experience with their carriers, and therefore hold a very > prejudicial view of the USPS. > > Now there are other services that are terrible, and the problems occur > throughout the system.? Amazon Prime occasionally uses a service called > Ontrac, which ships to 8 states in the west. At least here in Colorado, > they are reprehensible, and border on fraud when it comes to making > their shipping comitments. Based on online reviews, I don't think > they're any better anywhere else. > > 73, > > John > AC0ZG > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 22:41:45 -0700 > From: Jim Brown <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Elecraft] Packing Peanuts Are Of the Devil! > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > >> On 4/18/2018 8:37 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: >> Bubble wrap and packing peanuts work quite well. > > When someone sends me packing peanuts, I make a doll with their name on > it and stick a LOT of pins in it. I also put their names, and the names > of their company, on my permanent s--t list. They are absolutely > miserable, a work of the devil. When I open a package, the xh$7x things > blow all over the place, and thanks to static, are a huge pain to collect. > > Bubble wrap is great, easy to reuse or dispose of. The air bags are fine > for light weight stuff if the rest of the packaging is decent. > > 73, Jim K9YC > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 23:26:30 -0700 (MST) > From: "Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Elecraft] WTB: Loaded KX3 > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi, > > looking for loaded KX3 (KXAT3, KXBC3, KXFL3) in 100%, no issues conditions. > Lower 48 or CONUS only is ok, PayPal also. > > Thanks for offers. > > 73 - Petr > > > > ----- > http://ok1rp.blogspot.com > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 06:27:17 -0400 > From: Bill <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Packing Peanuts Are Of the Devil! > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > The best packed radio I ever received was from TenTec. The radio was > bagged and was placed on the middle of a bed of cured spray foam. Then > the remainder of the box was filled with the same expanding spray foam. > Totally secure - nothing could move in any direction. I do not know if > this was their standard packing - I only purchased once from them. > > Bill W2BLC K-line > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 07:51:39 -0400 > From: N4ZR <[email protected]> > To: Elecraft List <[email protected]> > Subject: [Elecraft] UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > I have had good luck with USPS, but am less than thrilled with UPS.? My > K3 has been on its way back from Watsonville and was to arrive > yesterday, but I wasn't home when UPS came by.? Imagine my surprise to > see that a signature was required, and that they will try again today, > but with no indication of when or what will happen if I miss them today. > > 73, Pete N4ZR > Check out the Reverse Beacon Network > at <http://reversebeacon.net>, now > spotting RTTY activity worldwide. > For spots, please use your favorite > "retail" DX cluster. > >> On 4/18/2018 11:02 PM, Pete Michaelis - N8TR wrote: >> That's odd. I got my shipping notice Friday (ordered first day 2.5 >> hours after email) >> and also a UPS?? tracking number which I have been using to track the >> amps progress. >> >> 73, Pete - N8TR >> >> >> >> At 06:17 PM 4/18/2018, [email protected] wrote: >>> I???m a day-2 KPA1500 patient waiter.? I got the email 2 days ago and >>> today it shipped. There???s one potential problem.? It must have been >>> mentioned on this reflector and I missed it.? Elecraft used U.S. >>> Postal Service (USPS) to send the amp cross-country.? I have never >>> had a good experience with USPS??? handling of package deliveries, >>> particularly heavy (expensive) ones.? If you care about the shipper, >>> have the discussion with Elecraft up front.? I should have.? Good >>> luck all. Gary W2CS >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [email protected] >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 12:39:11 +0000 (UTC) > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > To: Elecraft List <[email protected]>, N4ZR <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > >>>> Imagine my surprise to > see that a signature was required <<< > Pete, why would you be surprise? !!!!!!Or! maybe the question should've been, > should UPS just leave such an expensive package on your doorstep?!!!I'm sure > there were instructions on how to get the Radio/ Package at your convenience. > You should be rather "Thrilled" that UPS has given consideration to following > the instructions of a safe delivery set forth by Elecraft. > Milverton / W9MMS. > > > On Thursday, April 19, 2018, 6:54:34 AM CDT, N4ZR <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I have had good luck with USPS, but am less than thrilled with UPS.? My > K3 has been on its way back from Watsonville and was to arrive > yesterday, but I wasn't home when UPS came by.? Imagine my surprise to > see that a signature was required, and that they will try again today, > but with no indication of when or what will happen if I miss them today. > > 73, Pete N4ZR > Check out the Reverse Beacon Network > at <http://reversebeacon.net>, now > spotting RTTY activity worldwide. > For spots, please use your favorite > "retail" DX cluster. > >> On 4/18/2018 11:02 PM, Pete Michaelis - N8TR wrote: >> That's odd. I got my shipping notice Friday (ordered first day 2.5 >> hours after email) >> and also a UPS?? tracking number which I have been using to track the >> amps progress. >> >> 73, Pete - N8TR >> >> >> >> At 06:17 PM 4/18/2018, [email protected] wrote: >>> I???m a day-2 KPA1500 patient waiter.? I got the email 2 days ago and >>> today it shipped. There???s one potential problem.? It must have been >>> mentioned on this reflector and I missed it.? Elecraft used U.S. >>> Postal Service (USPS) to send the amp cross-country.? I have never >>> had a good experience with USPS??? handling of package deliveries, >>> particularly heavy (expensive) ones.? If you care about the shipper, >>> have the discussion with Elecraft up front.? I should have.? Good >>> luck all. Gary W2CS >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [email protected] >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [email protected] > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 09:00:43 -0400 > From: Dave Sublette <[email protected]> > To: Elecraft Discussion List <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution > Message-ID: > <cakynjkndkhi9tkftwxc3doghndmjangk-qitm3ohp4xuexu...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > There is an APP that allows you to specify when you want your package > delivered by UPS. Also, you might have been able to go to the UPS > distribution point in your area and pick it up, depending on what time of > day you got home, etc... I have done this several times. > > I know it is disappointing to miss a delivery, but the other fellow is > right. I wouldn't want that beautiful amp to sit on my door step for > anyone to pick up when I'm not home. > > 73, > > Dave, K4TO > > On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 8:39 AM, tnnyswy--- via Elecraft < > [email protected]> wrote: > >>>>> Imagine my surprise to >> see that a signature was required <<< >> Pete, why would you be surprise? !!!!!!Or! maybe the question should've >> been, should UPS just leave such an expensive package on your >> doorstep?!!!I'm sure there were instructions on how to get the Radio/ >> Package at your convenience. You should be rather "Thrilled" that UPS has >> given consideration to following the instructions of a safe delivery set >> forth by Elecraft. >> Milverton / W9MMS. >> >> >> On Thursday, April 19, 2018, 6:54:34 AM CDT, N4ZR <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> I have had good luck with USPS, but am less than thrilled with UPS. My >> K3 has been on its way back from Watsonville and was to arrive >> yesterday, but I wasn't home when UPS came by. Imagine my surprise to >> see that a signature was required, and that they will try again today, >> but with no indication of when or what will happen if I miss them today. >> >> 73, Pete N4ZR >> Check out the Reverse Beacon Network >> at <http://reversebeacon.net>, now >> spotting RTTY activity worldwide. >> For spots, please use your favorite >> "retail" DX cluster. >> >>> On 4/18/2018 11:02 PM, Pete Michaelis - N8TR wrote: >>> That's odd. I got my shipping notice Friday (ordered first day 2.5 >>> hours after email) >>> and also a UPS tracking number which I have been using to track the >>> amps progress. >>> >>> 73, Pete - N8TR >>> >>> >>> >>> At 06:17 PM 4/18/2018, [email protected] wrote: >>>> I???m a day-2 KPA1500 patient waiter. I got the email 2 days ago and >>>> today it shipped. There???s one potential problem. It must have been >>>> mentioned on this reflector and I missed it. Elecraft used U.S. >>>> Postal Service (USPS) to send the amp cross-country. I have never >>>> had a good experience with USPS??? handling of package deliveries, >>>> particularly heavy (expensive) ones. If you care about the shipper, >>>> have the discussion with Elecraft up front. I should have. Good >>>> luck all. Gary W2CS >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:[email protected] >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to [email protected] >>> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [email protected] >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [email protected] > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 09:16:59 -0400 > From: "Bob Novas" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: [Elecraft] Longer K-Pod cable? > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Can I just makeup a 4 wire cable that is longer than the cable supplied with > the K-Pod? Any gotchas? > > > Thanks, > Bob - W3DK > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 09:18:53 -0400 > From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > >> On 2018-04-19 9:00 AM, Dave Sublette wrote: >> >> I know it is disappointing to miss a delivery, but the other fellow is >> right. I wouldn't want that beautiful amp to sit on my door step for >> anyone to pick up when I'm not home. > > Consider yourself lucky if UPS *did not* drop the package on the porch > and run. I have a 200 foot long driveway, the end of which is out of > sight of my front door. UPS often dumps packages at the end of the > drive, in full view of the road, and out of sight of the house even if > I'm home! The drivers simply don't want to pull into the narrow drive > (and back out) and they're too lazy to carry the package to the door > (or put it on a dolly if it's more than 25#) and wheel it up the > (concrete) drive. > > > 73, > > ... Joe, W4TV > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 09:09:31 -0400 > From: Don Wilhelm <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, Elecraft List > <[email protected]>, N4ZR <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > For UPS, Insurance of $1000 or more or a request for a direct signature > will require that someone at your home sign for the delivery. > > With USPS, that signature threshold is $500. > > Normally, they will attempt to re-deliver the next business day. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 4/19/2018 8:39 AM, tnnyswy--- via Elecraft wrote: >>>>> Imagine my surprise to >> see that a signature was required <<< >> Pete, why would you be surprise? !!!!!!Or! maybe the question should've >> been, should UPS just leave such an expensive package on your >> doorstep?!!!I'm sure there were instructions on how to get the Radio/ >> Package at your convenience. You should be rather "Thrilled" that UPS has >> given consideration to following the instructions of a safe delivery set >> forth by Elecraft. >> Milverton / W9MMS. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 13:32:12 -0000 > From: "Mark E. Musick" <[email protected]> > To: "'N4ZR'" <[email protected]>, "'Elecraft List'" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Pete, > It is common practice to require a signature for any package of large value. > I know that anything shipped to me over $1,000 or sometimes even $500 will > require my signature. > I get around the having to be home issue by having the package shipped to the > local UPS store. Yes, it costs $5.00, but well worth the convenience. > There are two ways to have your package delivered to the UPS store after > being shipped to your home address: > One, leave a note on the door where the delivery man left his note yesterday > telling him to drop it off at the UPS store. > The second way is using the tracking number go to the UPS website and change > the delivery address to the local UPS store. > I've done number two many times when the UPS delivery man and I have had > trouble connecting at my home. > > 73, > Mark, WB9CIF > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On > Behalf Of N4ZR > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 11:52 AM > To: Elecraft List <[email protected]> > Subject: [Elecraft] UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution > > I have had good luck with USPS, but am less than thrilled with UPS. My > K3 has been on its way back from Watsonville and was to arrive yesterday, but > I wasn't home when UPS came by. Imagine my surprise to see that a signature > was required, and that they will try again today, but with no indication of > when or what will happen if I miss them today. > > 73, Pete N4ZR > Check out the Reverse Beacon Network > at <http://reversebeacon.net>, now > spotting RTTY activity worldwide. > For spots, please use your favorite > "retail" DX cluster. > >> On 4/18/2018 11:02 PM, Pete Michaelis - N8TR wrote: >> That's odd. I got my shipping notice Friday (ordered first day 2.5 >> hours after email) and also a UPS tracking number which I have been >> using to track the amps progress. >> >> 73, Pete - N8TR >> >> >> >> At 06:17 PM 4/18/2018, [email protected] wrote: >>> I???m a day-2 KPA1500 patient waiter. I got the email 2 days ago and >>> today it shipped. There???s one potential problem. It must have been >>> mentioned on this reflector and I missed it. Elecraft used U.S. >>> Postal Service (USPS) to send the amp cross-country. I have never >>> had a good experience with USPS??? handling of package deliveries, >>> particularly heavy (expensive) ones. If you care about the shipper, >>> have the discussion with Elecraft up front. I should have. Good >>> luck all. Gary W2CS >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email >> list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to >> [email protected] >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message > delivered to [email protected] > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 08:35:01 -0500 > From: "Jim N7US" <[email protected]> > To: "Elecraft Reflector" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I signed up for UPS My Choice, which is free. I receive emails informing me > of any packages scheduled for delivery at my address whether they're > addressed to me or someone else in my household. I can specify where the > packages are to be left (e.g., side porch), when, or whether I want to pick > up the package at a UPS location. > > Check it out at > https://www.ups.com/us/en/services/tracking/mychoice.page . > > 73, Jim N7US > > -----Original Message----- > > > There is an APP that allows you to specify when you want your package > delivered by UPS. Also, you might have been able to go to the UPS > distribution point in your area and pick it up, depending on what time of day > you got home, etc... I have done this several times. > > I know it is disappointing to miss a delivery, but the other fellow is right. > I wouldn't want that beautiful amp to sit on my door step for anyone to pick > up when I'm not home. > > 73, > > Dave, K4TO > > On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 8:39 AM, tnnyswy--- via Elecraft < > [email protected]> wrote: > >>>>> Imagine my surprise to >> see that a signature was required <<< >> Pete, why would you be surprise? !!!!!!Or! maybe the question >> should've been, should UPS just leave such an expensive package on >> your doorstep?!!!I'm sure there were instructions on how to get the >> Radio/ Package at your convenience. You should be rather "Thrilled" >> that UPS has given consideration to following the instructions of a >> safe delivery set forth by Elecraft. >> Milverton / W9MMS. >> >> >> On Thursday, April 19, 2018, 6:54:34 AM CDT, N4ZR >> <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> I have had good luck with USPS, but am less than thrilled with UPS. >> My >> K3 has been on its way back from Watsonville and was to arrive >> yesterday, but I wasn't home when UPS came by. Imagine my surprise to >> see that a signature was required, and that they will try again today, >> but with no indication of when or what will happen if I miss them today. >> >> 73, Pete N4ZR > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 15 > Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 09:41:20 -0400 > From: Don Wilhelm <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > I guess I am fortunate, I have a 1/4 mile unpaved driveway - at the end > of a 3/4 mile unpaved private road in our large lot subdivision (8+ > acres for each lot. > > The house cannot be seen until you get halfway up the driveway. > UPS delivers to my front door and USPS does the same for packages that > will not fit in the mailbox. > > I am signed up for UPS My Choice, so I am notified when a package will > arrive. I also signed the Driver Release so the driver can leave a > package even though it is insured and I am temporarily away. > I am very careful to set a "vacation stop" for both UPS and USPS when I > will be away for an extended period of time. That guarantees that the > driver will not leave a package when I am away from home for an extended > period. > > Delivery service from both carriers is excellent here, but as has been > said, much depends on the local delivery person. I reward mine with a > gift during the holiday season, and it pays benefits. > > USPS and UPS both work well for me. I do not have the same flexibilty > with FedEx, but that is not to say they are not a good carrier. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > >> On 4/19/2018 9:18 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: >>> On 2018-04-19 9:00 AM, Dave Sublette wrote: >>> >>> I know it is disappointing to miss a delivery, but the other fellow is >>> right.? I wouldn't want that beautiful amp to sit on my door step for >>> anyone to pick up when I'm not home. >> >> Consider yourself lucky if UPS *did not* drop the package on the porch >> and run.? I have a 200 foot long driveway, the end of which is out of >> sight of my front door.? UPS often dumps packages at the end of the >> drive, in full view of the road, and out of sight of the house even if >> I'm home!? The drivers simply don't want to pull into the narrow drive >> (and back out) and they're too lazy to carry the package to the door >> (or put it on a dolly if it's more than 25#) and wheel it up the >> (concrete) drive. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 16 > Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 09:47:58 -0400 > From: N4ZR <[email protected]> > To: "Mark E. Musick" <[email protected]>, 'Elecraft List' > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Yes, I know. The problem is that they did not warn me when tracking the > package that I would have to be there, and despite claiming they would > do so, their web site also gave me no inkling of when during the day I > could expect delivery. For a company that designs its deliveryroutes to > minimize left turns, you'd think this would be child's play. > > 73, Pete N4ZR > Check out the Reverse Beacon Network > at <http://reversebeacon.net>, now > spotting RTTY activity worldwide. > For spots, please use your favorite > "retail" DX cluster. > >> On 4/19/2018 9:32 AM, Mark E. Musick wrote: >> Pete, >> It is common practice to require a signature for any package of large value. >> I know that anything shipped to me over $1,000 or sometimes even $500 will >> require my signature. >> I get around the having to be home issue by having the package shipped to >> the local UPS store. Yes, it costs $5.00, but well worth the convenience. >> There are two ways to have your package delivered to the UPS store after >> being shipped to your home address: >> One, leave a note on the door where the delivery man left his note yesterday >> telling him to drop it off at the UPS store. >> The second way is using the tracking number go to the UPS website and change >> the delivery address to the local UPS store. >> I've done number two many times when the UPS delivery man and I have had >> trouble connecting at my home. >> >> 73, >> Mark, WB9CIF >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On >> Behalf Of N4ZR >> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 11:52 AM >> To: Elecraft List <[email protected]> >> Subject: [Elecraft] UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution >> >> I have had good luck with USPS, but am less than thrilled with UPS. My >> K3 has been on its way back from Watsonville and was to arrive yesterday, >> but I wasn't home when UPS came by. Imagine my surprise to see that a >> signature was required, and that they will try again today, but with no >> indication of when or what will happen if I miss them today. >> >> 73, Pete N4ZR >> Check out the Reverse Beacon Network >> at <http://reversebeacon.net>, now >> spotting RTTY activity worldwide. >> For spots, please use your favorite >> "retail" DX cluster. >> >>> On 4/18/2018 11:02 PM, Pete Michaelis - N8TR wrote: >>> That's odd. I got my shipping notice Friday (ordered first day 2.5 >>> hours after email) and also a UPS tracking number which I have been >>> using to track the amps progress. >>> >>> 73, Pete - N8TR >>> >>> >>> >>> At 06:17 PM 4/18/2018, [email protected] wrote: >>>> I???m a day-2 KPA1500 patient waiter. I got the email 2 days ago and >>>> today it shipped. There???s one potential problem. It must have been >>>> mentioned on this reflector and I missed it. Elecraft used U.S. >>>> Postal Service (USPS) to send the amp cross-country. I have never >>>> had a good experience with USPS??? handling of package deliveries, >>>> particularly heavy (expensive) ones. If you care about the shipper, >>>> have the discussion with Elecraft up front. I should have. Good >>>> luck all. Gary W2CS >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:[email protected] >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email >>> list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to >>> [email protected] >>> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message >> delivered to [email protected] >> >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 17 > Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 13:51:52 +0000 > From: SAMUEL L ROWE <[email protected]> > To: Jim N7US <[email protected]>, Elecraft Reflector > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution > Message-ID: > > <dm2pr0601mb1104e4b7a0fc0f8f8ad35efabe...@dm2pr0601mb1104.namprd06.prod.outlook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I have that as well as Informed Delivery Daily Digest from the USPS which is > also free. > > > Sam KG9NG > > > ________________________________ > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on > behalf of Jim N7US <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 8:35 AM > To: Elecraft Reflector > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution > > I signed up for UPS My Choice, which is free. I receive emails informing me > of any packages scheduled for delivery at my address whether they're > addressed to me or someone else in my household. I can specify where the > packages are to be left (e.g., side porch), when, or whether I want to pick > up the package at a UPS location. > > Check it out at > https://www.ups.com/us/en/services/tracking/mychoice.page . > UPS My Choice? | UPS > Services<https://www.ups.com/us/en/services/tracking/mychoice.page> > www.ups.com > UPS My Choice? lets you decide how, where and when home deliveries occur. > Online or by mobile, with My Choice you can put your plans ahead of the > package. UPS My Choice? lets you decide how, where and when home deliveries > occur. Online or by mobile, with UPS My Choice you can put your plans ahead of > > > > 73, Jim N7US > > -----Original Message----- > > > There is an APP that allows you to specify when you want your package > delivered by UPS. Also, you might have been able to go to the UPS > distribution point in your area and pick it up, depending on what time of day > you got home, etc... I have done this several times. > > I know it is disappointing to miss a delivery, but the other fellow is right. > I wouldn't want that beautiful amp to sit on my door step for anyone to pick > up when I'm not home. > > 73, > > Dave, K4TO > > On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 8:39 AM, tnnyswy--- via Elecraft < > [email protected]> wrote: > >>>>> Imagine my surprise to >> see that a signature was required <<< >> Pete, why would you be surprise? !!!!!!Or! maybe the question >> should've been, should UPS just leave such an expensive package on >> your doorstep?!!!I'm sure there were instructions on how to get the >> Radio/ Package at your convenience. You should be rather "Thrilled" >> that UPS has given consideration to following the instructions of a >> safe delivery set forth by Elecraft. >> Milverton / W9MMS. >> >> >> On Thursday, April 19, 2018, 6:54:34 AM CDT, N4ZR >> <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> I have had good luck with USPS, but am less than thrilled with UPS. >> My >> K3 has been on its way back from Watsonville and was to arrive >> yesterday, but I wasn't home when UPS came by. Imagine my surprise to >> see that a signature was required, and that they will try again today, >> but with no indication of when or what will happen if I miss them today. >> >> 73, Pete N4ZR > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [email protected] > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 18 > Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 09:46:24 -0400 > From: Don Wilhelm <[email protected]> > To: Bob Novas <[email protected]>, [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Longer K-Pod cable? > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Bob, > > You are welcome to try it. I have seen no data on how long it can be. > BTW, it is NOT a 4 wire cable - it uses 5 wires out of 6 in the 6P6C > connector - pin 1 must not be connected. See page 19 of the K-Pod manual. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > >> On 4/19/2018 9:16 AM, Bob Novas wrote: >> Can I just makeup a 4 wire cable that is longer than the cable supplied with >> the K-Pod? Any gotchas? > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 19 > Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 08:32:46 -0700 > From: David Gilbert <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Packing Peanuts Are Of the Devil! > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > > Pretty much the same effect can be had with styrofoam peanuts if they > are bagged, such as with lightweight kitchen trash bags. Conformal > packing without the mess.? I'll never understand why companies ship with > loose peanuts. > > Dave? AB7E > > > >> On 4/19/2018 3:27 AM, Bill wrote: >> The best packed radio I ever received was from TenTec. The radio was >> bagged and was placed on the middle of a bed of cured spray foam. Then >> the remainder of the box was filled with the same expanding spray >> foam. Totally secure - nothing could move in any direction. I do not >> know if this was their standard packing - I only purchased once from >> them. >> >> Bill W2BLC K-line >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [email protected] >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 20 > Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 08:58:08 -0700 > From: Rick WA6NHC <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Packing Peanuts Are Of the Devil! > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Because they slide the box under a hopper, spill peanuts in, add the > product and fill with more peanuts, slide to the taping position, label > and ship.? Simple, quick and low cost to let them move more product out > faster.? Pure economics. > > Rick nhc > > >> On 4/19/2018 8:32 AM, David Gilbert wrote: >> >> Pretty much the same effect can be had with styrofoam peanuts if they >> are bagged, such as with lightweight kitchen trash bags. Conformal >> packing without the mess.? I'll never understand why companies ship >> with loose peanuts. >> >> Dave? AB7E > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 21 > Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 15:57:49 +0000 > From: rich hurd WC3T <[email protected]> > To: David Gilbert <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Packing Peanuts Are Of the Devil! > Message-ID: > <cabyu7whhjl9p1hy-3fbl19rohjsk9x-68v+ug_6wfbykuxu...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Look in the shipping department. They have a huge dispenser and just open > a spigot and let them pour in. Fast and easy, pushing the labor for > removal to the person OPENING the package. ;) > > On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 11:32 David Gilbert <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> Pretty much the same effect can be had with styrofoam peanuts if they >> are bagged, such as with lightweight kitchen trash bags. Conformal >> packing without the mess. I'll never understand why companies ship with >> loose peanuts. >> >> Dave AB7E >> >> >> >>> On 4/19/2018 3:27 AM, Bill wrote: >>> The best packed radio I ever received was from TenTec. The radio was >>> bagged and was placed on the middle of a bed of cured spray foam. Then >>> the remainder of the box was filled with the same expanding spray >>> foam. Totally secure - nothing could move in any direction. I do not >>> know if this was their standard packing - I only purchased once from >>> them. >>> >>> Bill W2BLC K-line >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:[email protected] >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to [email protected] >>> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [email protected] > > -- > 72, > Rich Hurd / WC3T / DMR: 3142737 > PA Army MARS, Northampton County RACES, EPA-ARRL Public Information Officer > for Scouting > Latitude: 40.761621 Longitude: -75.288988 (40?45.68' N 75?17.33' W) Grid: > *FN20is* > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 22 > Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 12:37:24 -0400 > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Elecraft] UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 > > Sign up for UPS My Choice > https://www.ups.com/mobile/deliveryplanner?loc=en_US and you will be aware > of every package coming to your residence. You can redirect packages if > they require a signature and you will not be home. > > John KK9A > > > N4ZR wrote: > > Yes, I know. The problem is that they did not warn me when tracking the > package that I would have to be there, and despite claiming they would > do so, their web site also gave me no inkling of when during the day I > could expect delivery. For a company that designs its deliveryroutes to > minimize left turns, you'd think this would be child's play. > > 73, Pete N4ZR > Check out the Reverse Beacon Network > at <http://reversebeacon.net>, now > spotting RTTY activity worldwide. > For spots, please use your favorite > "retail" DX cluster. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 23 > Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 10:13:18 -0700 > From: Bill Frantz <[email protected]> > To: Bob Novas <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Longer K-Pod cable? > Message-ID: > <r470Ps-10134i-D8C25BF6C5EE49AB845F6919E29A3610@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > I have made a slightly longer cable, mine iw 4 or 5 feet long. > Elecraft warns that these cables aren't good for long distances, > so builder beware. My cable seems to work reliably. > > Do follow Don't warning and don't connect pin 1. The K3(S) end > is also used for factory setup of the radio, and you don't want > to go there yourself. > > 73 Bill AE6JV > >> On 4/19/18 at 6:16 AM, [email protected] (Bob Novas) wrote: >> >> Can I just makeup a 4 wire cable that is longer than the cable supplied with >> the K-Pod? Any gotchas? >> >> >> Thanks, >> Bob - W3DK > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bill Frantz | Ham radio contesting is a | Periwinkle > (408)356-8506 | contact sport. | 16345 > Englewood Ave > www.pwpconsult.com | - Ken Widelitz K6LA / VY2TT | Los Gatos, > CA 95032 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 24 > Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 11:12:49 -0500 > From: "Chuck Milam, N9KY" <[email protected]> > To: Bob Novas <[email protected]> > Cc: Elecraft Mail List <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Longer K-Pod cable? > Message-ID: > <CAMsj5Kjthttkaq6W15G_nBnoKVM1TTjr0Jxf0RG8=_0mnin...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Bob: > > I made one to allow it to reach around the back of the desk and then > underneath to the keyboard tray, so the K-Pod is right next to my computer > mouse--very handy. > > Make sure you get the wiring correct, as W3PFR points out, pin 1 must not > be connected, else you may get some "interesting" results. > > I ordered a 6P6C cable, cut off one end, then crimped on my own connector > with the pin 1 wire cut back and therefore disconnected. > > If you do this, be sure to mark the cable ends, as noted in the K-Pod > manual: > > *"If you disconnect the wire at only one end, be sure that end is plugged > into your K3S or K3."* (p. 19) > > > --- > Chuck Milam, N9KY > [email protected] > >> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 8:16 AM, Bob Novas <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Can I just makeup a 4 wire cable that is longer than the cable supplied >> with >> the K-Pod? Any gotchas? >> >> >> Thanks, >> Bob - W3DK >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [email protected] >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 25 > Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 11:46:26 -0700 > From: Robert Morris <[email protected]> > To: Mark Wheeler <[email protected]> > Cc: Elecraft Listserver <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] New Product: SPX3 External Speaker > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > Here is my reply to another response which didn't make it to my Inbox. I > try to keep up with everyone's inquiries. The original response is at > the bottom: > > Hi Mark, > > Thanks for your feedback. I've been wondering the same thing about the > grille. A square or rectangular grille would mimic the look of the > Elecraft SP3, which is a plus. On the other hand, in order to have a > volume knob on the face, a square or rectangular grille would likely > force the enclosure to be wider to accommodate both the grille and knob. > The round grille allows a knob to be placed in the corner with ease. > Also, a round grille weighs less. > > I used a round grille for the first prototype because I was able to > source one that fit the speaker driver I'm using. So, I could at least > have a complete speaker. Fortunately, it looks better than I had > anticipated. Of course, your question is, which would look better? For > many, it comes down to personal preference. I'm open to what you and > others prefer. > > Thanks and 73, > Robert (AG6ZZ) > > ------------------------- > > Robert, > > I love the idea, I'm wondering about whether a square or rectangular > speaker grill would look better. 73, > > Mark > KM6HFR > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [email protected] > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > You must be a subscriber to post. > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > End of Elecraft Digest, Vol 168, Issue 23 > ***************************************** ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[email protected] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [email protected]
