Hello Ken & Bob (callsign?),

I’m very sorry that you and others seem to feel annoyed because of the K4 
discussion. This was not my intention but I’m a bit disappointed that this 
quickly drifted off into a 'so why did you buy an Elecraft product' debate 
instead of discussing things more objectively.

Someone was asking about a K4 and I just started to think out loud what in my 
eyes would perfect the K3S or even justify a new model. This was not meant as 
criticism. However, my points did not come 'out of the blue' as I and others 
have been collecting notes since the K3 hit the market. Back then and after 
careful evaluation of an early model we just silently went with another 
product. Since then many issues have been addressed making the upgraded K3/K3S 
a mature product, and my list has shrunken to the aforementioned points. It now 
seemed appropriate to articulate them.

I’m not expecting at all that someone will build a radio to my personal needs. 
Most of it is subjective and debatable, anyway. But we all would agree that 
time moves on and it does make sense to help such a responsive company like 
Elecraft with new ideas which they might consider for future products. As a 
long-time reader of this list I understand that it has been this way all the 
time and hence I don’t feel it is wrong to mention possible improvements.

It is absolutely fine if you are happy with your early serial number K3. 
However, there may be issues you are not aware of and for good reason Elecraft 
has come out with upgrades. One example is the CW timing issue of the K3 with 
the old synthesizer as mentioned earlier:
http://lists.f5mzn.org/pipermail/support/2013-November/083384.html
http://mldxcc.org/n6tv-k3.pdf

There are still a few CW signals on the bands, even highly respected and 
successful contesters, which can be recognized by their choppy keying. If you 
are not into CW faster than about 32 WPM this is not an issue. But an early 
serial number K3 is not an immaculate radio.

As stated by others Rob Sherwood measures just some aspects of the rigs 
performance. These do matter if you are into serious DX-contesting with big 
antennas. But there are other technical and operational aspects which are not 
covered and he never intended to do so.

Getting back to the first two points of my list which unintentionally contained 
a comparison with newer ICOM rigs:

- Yes, to me it is amazing how ICOM does it, but the NR really works excellent 
and everybody else who has operated an IC-7851 will agree. 

- ICOMs APF is easier to understand: It is basically a DSP audio filter with 
preselectable bandwidths of 80/160 or 320Hz in context with a 0-6db amplifier. 
This makes it useful as a quick option to emphasize a weak or disturbed signal. 
Elecrafts APF in contrast has a fixed 30Hz bandwidth and is more suitable to 
emphasize a very weak signal when you have the time to tune it in. The ability 
to select both APF paradigms would be awesome. But again, this is debatable. 

Having said that, I love my K3S and although it took a few years it has now 
become my preferred CW rig.


73,

Stefan DL1IAO, SA3CWW/SM9A


--
Stefan v. Baltz
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http://www.dl1iao.com





> Am 19.05.2018 um 15:28 schrieb Ken G Kopp <[email protected]>:
> 
> If you're so happy with Icom's performance, why did you buy an Elecraft
> product?
> 
> 73!
> 
> K0PP
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