We’re thinking that the first CW character is shortened by a longer delay 
(QSK), and that is the issue...not that a longer delay is prevented?
Is that what I’m reading?
QSK with a foot switch sounds interesting to watch...

Chuck
KE9UW

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> On Jun 8, 2018, at 9:02 AM, Clay Autery <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Mmmmm.... even without a firmware change, my TX DLY already has the range 
> from "NOR 8ms" to "020" (8-20 ms).  Granted, that 20ms MAY be somewhat 
> shorter than 20ms, as described by Wayne regarding the 8ms "NOR" setting.
> I suspect that they will now push this up in the queue of things to mod in 
> the next firmware release.
> 
> Strange (to me) that so many find foot switch use in CW such a non-starter.  
> Since I uses one exclusively in SSB, I guess it is only natural for me to use 
> one in CW...
> 
> 73,
> 
> ______________________
> Clay Autery, KY5G
> (318) 518-1389
> 
>> On 08-Jun-18 05:22, Igor Sokolov wrote:
>> Wayne it is a pity that TX delay setting affects CW timing. Changing TX 
>> delay from default even one or two steps makes CW much worth. Can you figure 
>> out a way to make CW timing independent from TX delay? With 5 ms TX delay 
>> working in many contests I already had to change a pair of relays in the 
>> amplifier. 10-12 ms would be fine for me. 20 ms will probably suit the 
>> majority of users. But 5 ms is way too fast and unfortunately cannot be 
>> altered without spoiling CW sending. I know that I could build external 
>> sequencer but this does not look neat enough especially for portable field 
>> operation. Every other radio I had allowed TX delay adjustment to at least 
>> 20 ms.
>> 
>> 73, Igor UA9CDC
>> 
>> 08.06.2018 4:43, Wayne Burdick пишет:
>>> It has come to our attention (thanks to N7YK and N6TV) that the default 
>>> value of CONFIG:TX DLY, 8 ms, may actually be closer to 5 ms.
>>> 
>>> The associated T/R control firmware hasn’t changed in a long time, so 
>>> hopefully there aren’t many users affected (or we would have heard about 
>>> it). The shorter delay may be related to the improved KSYN3A synth, which 
>>> switches faster than the original. We’re looking into this, and will update 
>>> the displayed value to reflect the actual value.
>>> 
>>> Details:
>>> 
>>> When using a QRO amp with the K3, the KEY OUT line from the radio is used 
>>> to key the amplifier, setting it up to receive RF. Since the K3 has very 
>>> fast QSK, the amp’s T/R control circuitry has to be similarly fast.
>>> 
>>> Those of you who are using KPA500s and KPA1500s need not be concerned about 
>>> the K3’s fast QSK speed, since our amps use PIN diode T/R switching. They 
>>> can easily keep up with the K3 at any code speed and with the default 
>>> setting of the CONFIG:TX DLY menu entry.
>>> 
>>> However, some other amps, especially older ones, use slow T/R relays. If 
>>> the transceiver generates RF before the amp is ready, this might result in 
>>> key clicks.
>>> 
>>> (In practice there’s a bit of a grace period because the RF keying envelope 
>>> rises very slowly. It’s a "raised-cosine sigmoid," resulting in the 
>>> transceiver itself having incredibly clean keying sidebands. See K9YC white 
>>> paper on this topic.)
>>> 
>>> If you suspect your amp has a slow T/R relay, you should do a listening 
>>> test, or better yet have someone else listen from a good distance. If you 
>>> (or they) hear any evidence of clicks, increase the value of CONFIG:TX DLY.
>>> 
>>> Use the lowest setting that eliminates the clicks. CW keying at higher code 
>>> speeds may be affected if the value is too high. Other modes not using fast 
>>> QSK will generally be unaffected (voice and data).
>>> 
>>> An alternative to increasing TX DLY is to use a foot switch, as do many 
>>> users of old amps regardless of transceiver type.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Wayne
>>> N6KR
> 
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