> On Aug 20, 2018, at 11:32 , John Harper <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> What is the justification for continued funding of WWV? Hasn't it been
> obsoleted (if that's a verb) by GPS as far as being a time and freq
> standard?


Here is (are?) my two cents: 

I think this is a significant mistake for at least two big picture reasons:

1)  There are still many devices (notably standalone clocks and watches) that 
set time from these signals, and

2)  it is the only global tool w/ have to maintain a reasonable approximation 
of “correct” time in the event of a GPS failure which _will_ happen some day 
(ref: Normal Accidents by Perrow- see below)

and one small-picture reason: 

they are a stable, reliable ways to check propagation and HF receiver system 
performance.  Nothing wrong with beacons, but these frequencies are easy to 
remember ;-)

Never mind for the nostalgic value.

With regard to #2, I was personally impacted by two failures during the 
experimental phase of GPS: 
- ground control uploaded ephemeris data with a “zero” for orbit altitude, all 
receivers that didn’t crash on math errors produced a position at the center of 
the ellipsoid, and
- the (very limited) constellation orbit inclinations were changed and our rise 
time predictions were so far off we did not find any satellites to track

To the best of my knowledge we haven’t seen any blunders of this scale since 
the system went into normal operation but eventually we be impacted by either a 
similar blunder or a successful hack. 

Normal Accidents, Living with High Risk Technologies by Charles Perrow, 1999 
(yeah, old but still true and the book is widely available.)
ISBN 9781400828494

-Dale KB1ZKD
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