I had a pair of huge lead acid AGM batteries die on me after a bit over six years of very light use in a solar panel and battery system. Consulting the factory, they stressed that the batteries were getting cycled each day that the Sun came out and the charger started charging the batteries. I used the batteries sparingly at my remote ham shack, discharging about 10 to 12 % typically on the days that I used them. Only once did I discharge them to almost 75% of full.  I should have used them more so I would not feel so cheated having them die so quickly.  My solution is to replace them with LiFePO4 batteries and disconnect them from the solar charger unless I need the batteries for a specific event.  They can go a few months with no charging.  I can keep the charge cycles at a much lower rate with LiFePO4. You can't do that with lead acid, or at least not as well.

Dave K1WHS

On 12/28/2018 4:56 PM, K9MA wrote:
I think Bob is mainly referring to NiMH batteries. I am not sure about the partial discharges, and whether each one counts as a whole cycle. That is certainly NOT true of lead-acid and Li-Ion batteries, which will survive many more partial discharges than deep ones. Li-Ion batteries should not be stored for long periods fully charged, but at 50-70 percent. Fortunately, their self-discharge rate is so low that you would have to store them for years before you would have to worry about them becoming completely discharged, which is bad for all types.

73,
Scott K9MA

On 12/28/2018 10:41, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
Something I learned from one of our "tech reps" regarding rechargeable batteries and charge cycles.    I have successfully applied his advice for a multitude of and different types of my rechargeable batteries.

If you use a battery and then recharge it, that is one charge cycle.   Likewise if you should use only 10% of the battery capacity and recharge it, that is also one  charge cycle.   And in the same vein, if you use 90% of battery capacity and then recharge it, that is also one recharge cycle.

The point, every time you use the battery, regardless of the amount of discharge, and recharge it, that is one charge cycle. In other words, don't recharge until necessary.   And never leave a battery in the discharged state.  Always charge to full capacity.   Short charging cycles, because one perhaps is in a hurry and can't wait, only subtracts from the total number of charge cycles available.    And there are only so many charge cycles with each type of battery.   So every time you use and recharge a battery, click off one charge cycle.

I've practiced this with several different types of batteries and find that my batteries last much longer and need less frequent replacement.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 12/28/2018 9:47 AM, Walter Underwood wrote:
Eneloop Pro (labeled Eneloop XX for a bit) are rated for 500 charge cycles. Regular Eneloop batteries are rated for 2100 charge cycles but have lower capacity. Choose the one you prefer. I like the higher capacity batteries.

The Wikipedia page on Eneloop has a chart that clears this up to some degree.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eneloop

wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)


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