The problem is loop diameter.  Efficiency on 20m of a 12” diameter loop would 
be on the order of 5%. Forget it entirely on 40m .. essentially a dummy load 
that would take around 1200 pf to resonate. On 17m efficiency would go up to 
around 11%. 

I use a loop portable all the time (Alexloop, W4OP) and they work well. They’re 
both about 3 ft in diameter. The Alexloop is light enough to be carried around 
hand held ... the W4OP needs a table top or tripod. 

Grant NQ5T

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> On Jan 22, 2019, at 3:57 PM, Wayne Burdick <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> So, just for grins, I’d like to try something completely incognerdo: no 
> visible antenna. A small remotely tuned loop (say 12” diameter) would seem to 
> be the best choice, as it would fit entirely inside a small backpack. It 
> could have  modest efficiency while not requiring a counterpoise wire. Rigid 
> 1” copper pipe formed in a square would be convenient to deploy. 
> 
> The loop would be only 6 to 8” from soft tissue, so you’d want to run QRP, of 
> course.  OTOH, we’re talking about HF. A cellphone by your ear is probably 
> worse. 
> 
> Any other antenna suggestions?
> 
> Wayne
> 
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