Ok then we have contrary opinions as to what the purpose of the forum is, I 
stand corrected. I am, like all amateurs, concerned that the hobby is dying out 
but I would have thought that there were better places to discuss how to deal 
with it. I am not exactly young myself. I will just continue with copious use 
of the delete button and I should imagine that Elecraft have to do the same and 
therefore sometimes miss good technical questions.  There are occasionally some 
pearls on here but I worry that some of the more technical stuff gets lost in 
the noise.

Maybe Elecraft do need some help though, if these things are never questioned 
then they will assume that everybody is OK with it. I am not but I accept that 
wanting technical content is a minority interest these days.

I will say no more on the matter. I have made my point and that is enough.

Regards

Conrad PA5Y

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On 
Behalf Of Gwen Patton
Sent: 15 December 2019 01:08
To: Elecraft <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] "Technical discussions vs waffle"

I don't know if you noticed, but older hams are dying of old age. It behooves 
any ham radio gear company to assist in the process of replacing the older hams 
who are going silent key, with new, young hams.

No more hams, no reason to make new and better ham radios. If we want Elecraft 
to continue, then helping figure out how to inspire youths to become hams and 
maybe buy Elecraft radios MIGHT just be a reasonable thing to talk about.

A tad mercantile, but the "pecuniary interest" clause refers to transmissions, 
not reflector emails. Elecraft is perfectly able to police the topic on their 
own reflector. They don't need help with that.

On Sat, Dec 14, 2019, 6:58 PM Conrad PA5Y <[email protected]> wrote:

> If someone has an opinion contrary to yours that does not mean that 
> the person needs therapy or that they are having a bad day. In fact I 
> am having a rather good day, lots of long distance QSOs during the 
> Geminids meteor shower and a few new grids as well. There is 
> absolutely nothing wrong with discussing getting young people involved 
> in amateur radio but why on the Elecraft forum. It is not the right 
> place, that is all I am saying. Ask a few EME'rs whether I care or 
> not? I help lots of people and will continue to do so. I enjoy it. 
> What I don't do is keep quiet about the fact that these topics should 
> not be on this forum, they are not specific to the products. That is all I am 
> saying.
>
> You should be ashamed of therapy in such a flippant way. What if I was 
> suffering from mental health issues? You think it is OK to use such 
> sentiment?
>
> However that has nothing to do with Elecraft either.
>
> Back to 2m MS.
>
> 73
>
> Conrad PA5Y
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> <[email protected]>
> On Behalf Of Jim Ewing
> Sent: 15 December 2019 00:04
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] "Technical discussions vs waffle"
>
> PA5Y,
>
> The "waffling" is about how to get young people involved in ham radio, 
> which you may or may not care about.  And engendered by one of the 
> founders of Elecraft, who has done a great deal for ham radio, both on 
> the design and operating end.  He obviously cares.
>
> Sorry you are having a bad day.  Perhaps you can consult your 
> therapist to make it all better.
>
> V/R
> Jim Ewing N4TMM
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