Jim, pardon my ignorance but KN means end of transmission or invite a specific station to transmit from what I see. Why would that deter a reply from a CQ? I am sure you are right but I would like to know the experienced understanding from a pro.
Brian VE3GMZ Sent via BlackBerry Hub+ Inbox for Android Original Message From: [email protected] Sent: March 29, 2020 4:52 p.m. To: [email protected] Reply to: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Not moving your wrist sending CW ? I learned CW back in 1961 as a "Morse Intercept Operator" in the Army Security Agency. They didn't teach us to send, other than after we passed 18 groups (yes, 5 leter/number groups, not English words) per minute copying on a "Mill" they gave us a 4 hour class on sending with a hand key. To pass that class we had to send a paragraph of text which was recorded in the morning and then in the afternoon we had to copy back the text we sent and get 75 percent perfect copy to pass. THAT is extremely difficult when you learned to copy 5 letter/number groups and then the sending test was a paragraph of English and your own sending to boot! I taught myself higher speed sending using a TO keyer and a Vibroplex single lever paddle (Iambic keying hadn't been invented at that time). I didn't get to where I could get my ham license until I got to Japan in 1963 and took the old "Conditional" test. Once I had my license I bought a Vibroplex bug and again taught myself to use it. I do roll my wrist slightly, and for me that is very comfortable. I also taught myself (took a couple years to master) to switch back and forthe between paddles and the bug, a skill I maintain to this day and I'm turning 78 in a few days. I can still copy 60 wpm or so in my head but with the bug or paddles, my comfortable sending speed is between 25 and 30. My pet peeve these days with the newer ops that actually can send CW is they call CQ and then end the CQ sequence with "KN" and then wonder why nobody answers them - LOL. Jim, W0EB ------ Original Message ------ From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: 3/29/2020 3:24:26 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Not moving your wrist sending CW ? >On 2020-03-29 2:01 PM, EricJ wrote: >>The bug was developed to minimize destructive wrist action. Operators >>learned to roll their wrist, but not really flex it in any way. I've >>noticed most of the high speed ops on youtube demonstrating Begali >>(what else?) keys use two fingers and thumb with no wrist movement. > >The only place I know that Morse was sent using "fingers only" was with >iambic/squeeze keying using an electronic keyer. > >I learned on a straight key 50+ years ago where I was taught to use the >entire forearm. I moved to a bug where I was taught to roll the forearm >(confirmed after the fact by my wife's grandfather who was a long time >Western Electric landline operator/station manager) to a single paddle >TO keyer and eventually to a dual paddle keyer. I still roll my wrist >and use very little finger movement (obviously I don't "squeeze"). > >73, > > ... Joe, W4TV > > >On 2020-03-29 2:01 PM, EricJ wrote: >>Sending Morse by foot isn't so rare. It's common enough that a Q-code was >>developed especially for it. >> >>Most of us started on a straight key (62 years) where wrist action is more >>important. The bug was developed to minimize destructive wrist action. >>Operators learned to roll their wrist, but not really flex it in any way. >>I've noticed most of the high speed ops on youtube demonstrating Begali (what >>else?) keys use two fingers and thumb with no wrist movement. I've only seen >>it on youtube as nobody I've known since the Army ever sent that fast! >> >>Eric KE6US >> > > >______________________________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:[email protected] > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >Message delivered to [email protected] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[email protected] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [email protected] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[email protected] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [email protected]
