Who uses S-values anyway? Maybe for serious propagation measurements, but I haven't heard anything but "5NN" or "59" in a contest as far back as I can remember, and likewise in CW DX work. It's programmed into the logging software and probably impossible to dislodge. I was recently in a DX pileup and decided to send a real report, 459, so the DX knew how he was actually doing in my part of the world. I could almost feel the annoyance coming back at me through the ether from both the fox and the other hounds. On CW and SSB rag chews I have heard real reports being exchanged, about both the signal and -- more commonly on SSB -- in complaints about the noise. But even there what matters is readability above the noise, not the microvolts themselves. IMHO, it's interesting to have S numbers on the scale of my P3, but if they disappeared from the K3 display it would be a long time before I noticed their absence.
"59 Good Buddy" (whatever that means), Ted, KN1CBR ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 19:43:35 -0400 From: Brian Denley <[email protected]> To: Charlie T <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 S-meter characteristics Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 The International Amateur Radio Union (IARU) Region 1 agreed on a technical recommendation for S Meter calibration for HF and VHF/UHF transceivers in 1981. Why go back to 1947? Brian Denley KB1VBF Sent from my iPad > On Apr 24, 2020, at 6:30 PM, Charlie T <[email protected]> wrote: > > ?S-meters should be calibrated with 9 signal levels: > > *Faint - Signal barely perceptible > *Very weak signals > *Weak signals > *Fair signals > *Fairly good signals > *Good signals > *Moderately strong signals > *Strong signals > *Extremely strong signals > > (Reprinted from the 1947 ARRL Handbook, page 466 "RST System of Signal > Reports") > > 73, Charlie k3ICH > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On > Behalf Of John Stengrevics > Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 7:49 AM > To: Morgan Bailey <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 S-meter characteristics > > Agree completely. I find all S meters to be totally inaccurate and next to > useless, including my K3S?. > ******************** ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[email protected] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [email protected]

