Well, the fact is that the coding and processing behind modes like FT8 doesn't have to be as rigid as is implemented in WSJT-X.  It only requires that information be sent and received in time frames, and those time frames are simply a function of three variables ... bandwidth, rate, and number of characters in the message frame.  It would be possible to change any of those, such as widening the bandwidth to increase the number of characters for the same time frame.

It would also be possible to send text but have it converted to CW on the other end.  Or even to key CW that gets converted to text before transmission ... i.e., CW to CW except with significantly better S/N performance.  If the user was willing to live with a narrow bandwidth single conversation format, clock synchronization isn't even really needed.   And if we were willing to live with a single conversation format, there would be no point in cramming everyone into 2.4 KHz and we could spread out like we do for every other mode.

I'm no expert, but I think that the coding could have enough error checking to allow busted message frames to be printed (or converted to CW) ... although of course with errors.  The extra error processing  would reduce the character count, though, all other things being equal.

The point is that the digital signal processing behind FT8 is extremely powerful and could be adapted to other user formats with a lot more flexibility than we have with FT8.  The hams who just dismiss FT8 out of hand really don't understand the broader weak signal applicability of it.

73,
Dave   AB7E



On 7/12/2020 4:53 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote:
Yeah, great, reliable at or below the noise floor, but if all you're doing is meeting the somewhat arbitrary minimum that defines a QSO, what's the point?

I mean seriously, can you even ask about the weather?  Just say "hi?"

Meh.

I'm fine with typing, but I want a real live person typing back, and if we can type back and forth for an hour, that's great.

73 -- Lynn

On 7/12/20 2:33 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
The argument for digital modes like FT8 is that they're reliable at or below the noise floor, making it possible to work lots of DX even if solar conditions are very poor. Simplicity of protocol is a side effect of this design.
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