Ted, It is not all that simple, though Elecraft will do what they judge best.   
  Some of us in other parts of the world also put down deposits at an early 
date.    We in the EU can not take delivery until CE approval is obtained.   
Unless perhaps some take USA delivery and bring the radio back with us as part 
of luggage.    Of course flying is difficult these days.I am sure Elecraft will 
endeavour to be as even handed as they can be.   Meanwhile we wait 
anxiously.The world has taken a beating and California in particular.    There 
are Italian radio firms struggling to recover as well.We both or indeed all of 
us wish the good people in Elecraft the best.   They have done well to to get 
so close to shipping.    The Elecraft family all deserve a good Californian 
wine this weekend.73 Doug EI2CNSent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
-------- Original message --------From: Ted Roycraft <[email protected]> 
Date: 01/09/2020  18:17  (GMT+00:00) To: Wayne Burdick <[email protected]>, 
Björn Ekelund <[email protected]> Cc: Elecraft Reflector 
<[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K4] Shipping?? Wayne and 
Eric,I'm very sorry for all the problems you guys in California are having 
dealing with multiple problems beyond your control and it is completely 
understandable why the K4 has been delayed.  I'm sure that no one wants them 
shipping more than you do..Anyway, I am writing you to ask you if you could do 
something like you did when the K2 had many orders that you had to fill on a 
first come/first served basis.  Back then, every day you shipped, you posted 
the order date of the last K2 to go out the door that day. Could you do 
something similar with the K4?  In this case, initially for Group 1, publish 
the "deposit date" made by the buyer of the last K4 to go out the door that 
day.  I'm sure with the K2, that policy eliminated a lot of emails asking "how 
close am I to getting my K2".  And, contrary to the opinion of some of us, I 
think this policy would cut way down on the unnecessary emails coming to this 
mailing list asking "when am I getting my K4".Best regards,Ted Roycraft, W2ZKOn 
9/1/2020 12:47, Wayne Burdick wrote:> Hi Björn,>> The programmer's reference is 
mostly complete, but I still have to separate out internal vs. public commands. 
That was the plan, right up until the the fires :-/>> Are you already on our 
developer's list? We'll be posting the programmer's reference to this list as 
soon as it's ready.>> 73,> Wayne> N6KR>>>> On Sep 1, 2020, at 9:29 AM, Björn 
Ekelund <[email protected]> wrote:>>>> Hi Wayne,>>>> Since you are now shipping; 
When can we expect the K4 programmer's manual to be available for download?>>>> 
We want to make sure the DXLog (www.dxlog.net) contest logger supports K4 as 
soon as possible.>>>> I emailed you a few months ago but I guess that was too 
early.>>>> Björn SM7IUN>>>> Den tis 1 sep. 2020 kl 18:20 skrev Wayne Burdick 
<[email protected]>:>> A small batch is in process to go out this week, and I'm 
sure Eric will post an update.>>>> So how about a weather report?>>>> This past 
few weeks has been very difficult for California and the Bay Area in 
particular. No one could have anticipated this at the beginning of the month 
(remember the Ham Expo?), since fire season is usually in October. But 
worst-case conditions have been brewing for some time. Thanks to drought and 
record temperatures everything has become tinder-dry (10 years ago we'd get a 
few winter days in the 30F range, now the lowest we ever see is 40F). Bark 
beetle larvae are no longer culled during winter, turning trees into an insect 
smörgåsbord. This has left forests all over the West vulnerable.>>>> We had 
employees evacuated due to fires burning in or near the factory, and many of us 
elsewhere were on official alert status, thinking about what to pack. During 
this time the air quality has been horrendous (AQI over 200 some days). This 
has temporarily upended our strategy of keeping all the doors open to provide 
safe working conditions in the midst of the ongoing pandemic (remember that?) 
meaning virtually everyone is working from home. My family had to buy N95 masks 
just to be able to run errands. We still need them about 50% of the time, 
though the firefighters are making progress.>>>> In related news, one of our 
local field testers lost pretty much everything he owned, including his K4, due 
to one fire's unprecedented rampage through our coastal forests.>>>> And still 
we persist.>>>> All I can say, in the humbling face of nature, is...QRX.>>>> 
73,>> Wayne>> N6KR>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2020, at 4:29 AM, Nr4c 
<[email protected]> wrote:>>>>>> But well after closing for any of their 
regular shippers!>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone>>> ...nr4c. bill>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 
1, 2020, at 12:55 AM, Macy monkeys <[email protected]> wrote:>>>>>>>> 
>>>> It's not midnight yet on the west coast :)>>>>>>>> John K7FD>>>>>> 
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