Elecraft's ATUs are generally wider range than other manufacturers', I
thought, and that comes at a parts cost that everyone might not want to
pay. I'd rather have the option for a wide range one than a built-in but
less capable one.

On Fri, Jun 4, 2021, 00:41 John Nicholson <macymonk...@charter.net> wrote:

> Yes and no; both the IC-7610 and FTdx101 models include an internal tuner
> without an optional charge.
>
> John K7FD
>
> > On Jun 3, 2021, at 9:23 PM, Rick Tavan <r...@tavan.com> wrote:
> >
> > Ed K1EP mentioned that the K4 ATU is a cost-extra option on all K4
> models.
> > This is as it should be. If you have an external tuner in the shack or at
> > the antenna or a tuner integrated into an amplifier that's always in line
> > (or in Standby with the tuner enabled) or if all your antennas are well
> > matched, you wouldn't want to pay Elecraft for a tuner inside K4 that you
> > wouldn't be using. OTOH if, like me, you sometimes take your K4 to the
> > field or operate it at a shack where there is no external auto-tuner,
> then
> > the K4 ATU option is delightful. IMHO, Elecraft made some good decisions
> on
> > what to include as standard and what to "optionalize" in K4.
> >
> > /Rick N6XI
> >
> >> On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 7:16 AM Ed K1EP <k1ep.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> No. Extra on all versions.
> >>
> >> reply to: k...@arrl.net
> >>
> >>> On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 09:58 Richard <flat...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Does the basic plain vanilla K4 have a built-in antenna tuner? I'm
> >>> guessing no.
> >>>
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