Yes and No, While the FTDX101 does have an antenna tuner, it will only tune up to a 3:1 mismatch. Elecraft tuners will match 10:1. They Yaesu tuner also has problems like not memorizing tuning solutions in circumstances where it really should. I don't remember the details but it is truly nonsensical. So, it has to re-tune where it shouldn't have to. I have a FTDX101MP and I wish they had just left the tuner out. I ended up buying a KAT500 and it is a perfect solution. I truly could not ask for better performance and ease of use. Elecraft tuners are optional. But they also work phenomenally well and are worth every penny you pay for them. Richard - K4KRW
Message: 25 Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2021 21:40:25 -0700 From: John Nicholson <[email protected]> To: Rick Tavan <[email protected]> Cc: Elecraft <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 Lore Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Yes and no; both the IC-7610 and FTdx101 models include an internal tuner without an optional charge. John K7FD > On Jun 3, 2021, at 9:23 PM, Rick Tavan <[email protected]> wrote: > > ?Ed K1EP mentioned that the K4 ATU is a cost-extra option on all K4 models. > This is as it should be. If you have an external tuner in the shack or at > the antenna or a tuner integrated into an amplifier that's always in line > (or in Standby with the tuner enabled) or if all your antennas are well > matched, you wouldn't want to pay Elecraft for a tuner inside K4 that you > wouldn't be using. OTOH if, like me, you sometimes take your K4 to the > field or operate it at a shack where there is no external auto-tuner, then > the K4 ATU option is delightful. IMHO, Elecraft made some good decisions on > what to include as standard and what to "optionalize" in K4. > > /Rick N6XI > >> On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 7:16 AM Ed K1EP <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> No. Extra on all versions. >> >> reply to: [email protected] >> >>> On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 09:58 Richard <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Does the basic plain vanilla K4 have a built-in antenna tuner? I'm >>> guessing no. >>> >>> Richard Kunc ~ W4KBX >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:[email protected] >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to [email protected] >>> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [email protected] >> > > > -- > -- > > Rick Tavan > Truckee and Saratoga, CA > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [email protected] ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [email protected] http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft You must be a subscriber to post. Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com End of Elecraft Digest, Vol 206, Issue 2 **************************************** ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[email protected] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [email protected]
